How important is HCG during pct?

[DecaDaVe]

Is it really necessary to take? Or does clomid and nolvadex do the trick? thanx.

[LARGELI]

im usually ok with just clomid/nolva but i like hcg anyways. seems to provide a good jump start for my pct.

[muscledoc]

It depends on what you were pushing at what dose and for how long. HCG kick starts the production of Testosterone. If left to its own devices the body will eventually kick in. The Nolv just lowers the receptor sensitivity to estrogen by competing for the sites so you dont get as much estrogen related effects.

[trapattack]

im sure you will get a lot of different opinions on this, some will say that running 500mg every sat during the cycle helps with recovery, others run it for a wk in the middle of a cycle, or you could run it the traditional way at the end of a cycle. some ppl wont run it at all if their cycle didnt include a compound that shuts you down hard ie deca, fina ect.

in the end you will have to run it yourself and find out if it makes a difference in your recovery. but for longer cycles i would suggest using it

[BigWilly]

I didn't think HCG helped with recovering test levels...I thought it was strictly for testicular atrophy.

I do know this, it works like a charm in getting your balls back up to size.

For me, I do HCG mid cycle and then again first week after last steroid injection....1000iu EOD...5 shots total.

[LARGELI]

i officially became a believer in hcg after my very first post cycle shot of 2500iu......had my very first wet dream since junior high that night!!! (pardon my cruedness ladies) . it was funny as hell, i even woke my wife up to show and tell, and we both couldnt stop laughing! i was in my first week post cycle and had just finished runnin a 20 week cycle with eq by itself at the tail end of it, so i figured id give hcg a go......damn near thought id pissed myself.

[herodatus]

I like it myself. Post cycle. After last inj of gear. EOD for 2 weeks, then I hit the clomids. Seems to work real well for me. But I dont know, maybe I could get by without it. Just scared to try.

[DecaDaVe]

Wow thanx alot for the replies, i think i will use it, i mean its gonna be my first cycle, but i wanna be as safe as possible

[BigWilly]

Originally posted by INTIMID8OR3
HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA

thank you...

[Doom]

Originally posted by INTIMID8OR3
If i use HCG its in the middle of a heavy cycle @500mgs for 7 to 10 days .... and just use clomid and nolvadex post cycle ....


HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA

hope this helps ...

good post, and I agree, its best to use only during very long cycles

if your doing ur basic 10 week run, clomid and novla are fine

[DecaDaVe]

haha alright maybe i wont use it since im only runnin a 12 week cycle.

[trapattack]

now if it was a 12wk cycle with 100mg fina ed and 500mg deca wk then i would use it. but for the basic first cycle you wont need it


Largeli there is no reason to take a 2500 iu shot of hcg, check out the faq

[Chadd77]

Can you purchase hcg as a research chemical on the internet? You know… for my rats.

[trapattack]

no