sterile oils?

[kenk]

I've just took my first shot of T-400 on monday and my ass is still sore. i've been reading up a little on sterile oils and am thinking about cutting it with cotten seed oil. Is this the best way to go and will i be able to just draw it straight out of the vile to mix with T-400 in the syringe, or will i need a separate vile to mix myself?? here is the website i ordered the cotten seed oil from: www.lionnutrition.com. thanks guys.

[pudgy]

well if you want to know what concentration you have id say mix it from two containers into one. If you still have discomfort try heating it a little , and make sure you get down in there www.spotinjections.com should be helpful. T-400 is not that bad from my experience so just double check yourself to avoid problems.

[goliath]

t400 is crazy. i'd dilute it 50/50 if it were me. just draw up 1cc of the t400 and 1cc of sterile oil. let the two oils diffuse and then inject. even at a 1:1 ratio you will still more than likely have a little pain with it.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by goliath
t400 is crazy. i'd dilute it 50/50 if it were me. just draw up 1cc of the t400 and 1cc of sterile oil. let the two oils diffuse and then inject. even at a 1:1 ratio you will still more than likely have a little pain with it.

yep my T400 that I had was diluted with sterile oil and eq. I was only injecting 1/4 cc of the T400 and it still fucking hurt with the oil and eq with it.

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by kenk
I've just took my first shot of T-400 on monday and my ass is still sore. i've been reading up a little on sterile oils and am thinking about cutting it with cotten seed oil. Is this the best way to go and will i be able to just draw it straight out of the vile to mix with T-400 in the syringe, or will i need a separate vile to mix myself?? here is the website i ordered the cotten seed oil from: www.lionnutrition.com. thanks guys.

If the oil is sterile then yes you can. if not then you need to sterilize it yourself with a whatman filter. adding a little BA will not hurt ether. If you need directions just ask.

[Curls4dGirls]

Kenk:

FYI

I just ordered some sterile oil from the website you mentioned. The oil comes in a bottle with a screw on lid - not in a sealed sterile vial.

I don't think you can just inject, but, then again, I've never cut before.

Any flexperts have an opinion?

thx

[pudgy]

a whatman filter is cheaper than surgery is my opinion, go the safe way

[rcphatcat]

GOT SOME OIL FROM GPZ IT IS FILTERED OIL AND LABELED NOT FROM HUMAN USE FOR RESEARCH ONLY, IS THIS OIL SAFE?

[Curls4dGirls]

Thx Pudgy:

OK - so, I need to buy a whatman filter and a sterile, sealed vile?

[maxmuscle245]

IMHO You should always filter any oil you get no matter what. 4-6 dollars for a filter versus injecting bacteria and who knows what can lead to.....Death or maybe just a huge puss goider that will need to be hacked out by a doctor which will leave a lovely scar on your body and on your wallet.

[kenk]

alright...thanks guys but this shit sounds way to complicated! i think ill just say F it and finish my cycle...if anybody has any easier suggestions please let me know. thx.

[GearTripper]

i think everyone has valid points, but might be "scaring" you a bit too much. the cotton-seed oil from lion is fine. cut to your desire, and shoot away. another thing you can try is just lesser volume shots of the T400 multiple times per week with some advil. i really think the T400 "pain" is way over-exagerated as it doesn't bother me all that much in the least.

[GearTripper]

on a side note... i'd personally trust cottonseed oil over many of the UG lab AS anyday when it comes to possible infection. as for the label for "research purposes only" - they have to print that to cover their ass.

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by pudgy
a whatman filter is cheaper than surgery is my opinion, go the safe way

I have to agree. Even if the oil was filtered before there is often no sterilizing agent in it. This means that once you open/pierce the seal it is no longer completely sterile. If you need to know something about a product you should always ask the seller.

While you don't want a lot of solvent in a oil solution I would suggest always using some, this can actually help reduce the pain further so long as its not over done. (It increases the solvent to hormone ratio).

All propose gear-cutting oil

3ml of BA
5ml of BB
93ml of grapeseed or cottonseed oil
Filter with a .2 micron filter

The BA will help insure sterility and the BB will keep the oil from being absorbed to quickly.

[Gods Son]

shot it straight bro.It just hurts a little.Hell try 3cc of t400 in one inject.

[Deez Nuggets]

Originally posted by GearTripper
i think everyone has valid points, but might be "scaring" you a bit too much. the cotton-seed oil from lion is fine. cut to your desire, and shoot away. another thing you can try is just lesser volume shots of the T400 multiple times per week with some advil. i really think the T400 "pain" is way over-exagerated as it doesn't bother me all that much in the least.

Take QV prop for example. I hear that stuff hurts and i'm about to start it. How much cotten-seed oil should I add per cc? And is the cotton-seed oil from Lion sterile?.. meaning it doesn't need to be filter and sterilized before injected?

[GearTripper]

Originally posted by Deez Nuggets
Take QV prop for example. I hear that stuff hurts and i'm about to start it. How much cotten-seed oil should I add per cc? And is the cotton-seed oil from Lion sterile?.. meaning it doesn't need to be filter and sterilized before injected?

how much = whatever your preference is. there's no general rule, except to find what additional volume helps cut your pain down. typically, people with cut it 50/50 though with whatever... just remember to dose correctly if you're going to pre-mix. if you add 1cc of oil to 1 cc of say Sus250, you are now going to have 2cc=250mg rather then 1cc=250mg. the oil from LN will serve the purpose in question. is the oil from the UG lab sterile? my point is, you don't know for sure in any case. hell, i don't know if my upjohn cyp is sterile... well, i got a good feeling on that one... but if you wanna play it safe, definately filter filter filter. for an extra few bucks, why not?

[Deez Nuggets]

Originally posted by GearTripper
how much = whatever your preference is. there's no general rule, except to find what additional volume helps cut your pain down. typically, people with cut it 50/50 though with whatever... just remember to dose correctly if you're going to pre-mix. if you add 1cc of oil to 1 cc of say Sus250, you are now going to have 2cc=250mg rather then 1cc=250mg. the oil from LN will serve the purpose in question. is the oil from the UG lab sterile? my point is, you don't know for sure in any case. hell, i don't know if my upjohn cyp is sterile... well, i got a good feeling on that one... but if you wanna play it safe, definately filter filter filter. for an extra few bucks, why not?

Thanks a bunch Gear, I think I might try cutting it with B12 from lion.

I'll let everyone know how it goes.

[buyb12]

ok guy sorry I didn't see this thread. First off At lion we are not advocates of cutting solvents with oil. oil just is not good for you less is best.

We do advocate cutting high mg's and solvents levels with B12 it is painless and it works. WE sell the best Human Grade B12 on the market . .....And you need B12 to grow..!

next we advocate bacteriostatic Water .......oil as a last recourse

as mention above it should be filtered with a .2 micron filter ( the lab standard for sterility ) $4 very cheep at Lion , then it should be baked. ..250 degrees in the oven for 15 mins cool then repeat 2 times.

our oil is steril till you open it then iot will need to be baked.

filtering is very easy and cheep ....I've have a few absesses they are not fun.

[Curls4dGirls]

If you decide to buy from Lion, they have excellent service. Their turnaround time is ridiculously quick, and BuyB12 has always answered any questions that I PM.

Oh yeah, and their products kick ass.