MAY 1ST cutter begins(thanks LA for input)

[pudgy]

a.m cardio on an empty stomach 30-45 minutes a day 5x a week.

As for the cycle:

Prop 100mg/ed Wks 1-18
Tren 100mg/ed Wks 1-18
Var 50mg/ed Wks 1-6, 13-18

Calories- 3400

Macros-

Protein- 500
Carbs- 150
Fats- 90

no insulin spike until workout. That means stuff like chicken salad with olive oil, shakes with olive oil, lean steak, etc. Nothing with a significant amount of carbs in it.

Starting with your workout start sipping on a gatorade. A 20oz bottle only has 35 carbs. Mix it with water and creatine if you like. That plus some ECA or Clen will fuel your workout. Post workout, suck down some whey isolate with simple carbs. Like about 75. Use some log with this. End the day with chicken or turkey breast solo! Sans all milk products. This should give you 45 carbs to work with. I suggest some fiber carbs- veggie and lettuce.

Use NAC and ALA for liver support- 600ed of each.

clen/eca stack starting week 7. Std. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Run till end. That should be 12 weeks. Actually run the clen an additional 2 weeks in week 19-20.

T3 start in week 13 and run till end. Std taper up and down.

[Gods Son]

let me know how it turns out. Ive concidered a similar cycle.

[pudgy]

ill be keeping a log (with alot of complaining)

[Scorpio]

Nice cycle, LA does a great job on planning those....

[THE BOUNCER]

Looks good bud. IMO I would just run the ECA during the workout. Works much better then clen IMO.

[pudgy]

thats an idea, because i get crampy on clen with tren. god that rhymes.

[goliath]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
Looks good bud. IMO I would just run the ECA during the workout. Works much better then clen IMO.

i agree...it's also a better appetite suppresant. i would also drop the protein to about 300 grams. 500 is way to high...anything that is not used will just be stored as fat. 3400 cals is to high for cutting if unless you weigh 300 lbs. i had the hardest time finding the perfect cal/pro/carb/fat ratios for myself. i found that my optimal calorie range for cutting at 210 lbs was actually between 1700-1900 calories. check out this online calculator and compare the difference:
http://www.hussman.org/fitness/bmrcalc.htm

that calculator is right on for me. i'm sure it will be close to yours as well because we are both the same body-type...

[goliath]

oh yeah...i would drop the post workout carbs to 30 and spread the rest out over morning and afternoon in the form of complex, low GI carbs.

[pudgy]

interesting, thanks for the link ! it does say much lower than stated calories.

[candle25]

I agree with Goliath. I'd lower the protein and up the fat. You need EFAs for hormone sythisis and cell permiability as well.

[hitmansb]

Throw 3-5g of Taurine in on days you're taking clen...should solve the cramping problem.

[house1]

good luck brother

[Stonecold54]

sound like a nice cycle. anavar tren and prop should do you nice. good luck pudge!!!

[pudgy]

im starving and goliath is a bastard for giving me that link. leg day was good tho, not weak or anything .

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by pudgy
im starving and goliath is a bastard for giving me that link. leg day was good tho, not weak or anything .

what did you reduce your calories too?

[pudgy]

2500-2700 depending on the day

[goliath]

Originally posted by pudgy
2500-2700 depending on the day

cool...that sounds much more reasonable....

[lxorl]

that cycle does look pretty money. I wish i had the $$ to do a cycle right now. Maybe consider throwing in some Proviron toward the end to harden up even more? just an afterthought.

[pudgy]

settled on 2400 calories a day , nice and easy 400 calories 6 meals a day.

breakfast is at 7-7:30 after the gym
30-45 minutes of elliptical cardio on an empty stomach with a small gatoraide for simple carbs (25 grams) this is the only simple carbs i will take in.

last meal is at 6, 50 grams of protein and a good fiber/complex carb to keep me full as i dont go to sleep until 10 or 11

week one was great down 5 pounds, no measurable strength loss, great workouts, feeling flat in the mornings, and drinking alot of water.

man i forgot how much i love tren. this is my first tren cycle in over a year.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by pudgy
settled on 2400 calories a day , nice and easy 400 calories 6 meals a day.

breakfast is at 7-7:30 after the gym
30-45 minutes of elliptical cardio on an empty stomach with a small gatoraide for simple carbs (25 grams) this is the only simple carbs i will take in.

last meal is at 6, 50 grams of protein and a good fiber/complex carb to keep me full as i dont go to sleep until 10 or 11

week one was great down 5 pounds, no measurable strength loss, great workouts, feeling flat in the mornings, and drinking alot of water.

man i forgot how much i love tren. this is my first tren cycle in over a year.

sweet sounds good, I always eat celery when I am trying to lose weight, it has a negative caloric intake (takes more to burn that it has in it).

[blm]

nice dedication pudgy...good luck

[Tinfish]

good luck pudgy. keep it up.

[pudgy]

3 pounds down, most lost in the last few days of the week. starting to feel the a.s. and not crampy yet from the tren, bouncers tip may have helped there. Thinking seriously about changing my split, discussing it with iron addict and maki riddington.