Switching from Deca to Boldenone mid-cycle?

[Sootybaby]

Sorry about the length. But here goes: I am an anabolic newbie. Am 6'2" and a lean 196lb. Tend towards mesomorphic and want a slow but permanent-ish gain (don't wasnt to raise suspicions of girlfriend) also because of recent injury I think that too much gain too quickly could lead to more of an imbalance in my physique.

I am currently on this cycle

hGH (2iu/day) 5th week in to a 10week cycle
Deca-durabolin (310mg/week) 2nd week in to a possible 8wk cycle

But having read a bit more about deca it seems that when used alone it is difficult to maintain gains from deca.

I was thinking about swiching from deca from week four (use up supply) to Boldedone (~200mg/wk) in a 200mg/ml form, and continuing with this as a sole steroid for a further 5 weeks.

As I say, at the moment I am not looking to stack steroids until my rehabilitation.

Do people think that this would help beat the suppressive effects that coming off Deca seem to create. Boldedone does not seem to be as suppressive to natural testosterone as is deca.

What do people think of this strategy and would you reckon I would still need anti E's post cycle. If so, what do you recommend?

Looking forward from hearing from someone.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by Sootybaby
Sorry about the length. But here goes: I am an anabolic newbie. Am 6'2" and a lean 196lb. Tend towards mesomorphic and want a slow but permanent-ish gain (don't wasnt to raise suspicions of girlfriend) also because of recent injury I think that too much gain too quickly could lead to more of an imbalance in my physique.

I am currently on this cycle

hGH (2iu/day) 5th week in to a 10week cycle
Deca-durabolin (310mg/week) 2nd week in to a possible 8wk cycle

But having read a bit more about deca it seems that when used alone it is difficult to maintain gains from deca.

I was thinking about swiching from deca from week four (use up supply) to Boldedone (~200mg/wk) in a 200mg/ml form, and continuing with this as a sole steroid for a further 5 weeks.

As I say, at the moment I am not looking to stack steroids until my rehabilitation.

Do people think that this would help beat the suppressive effects that coming off Deca seem to create. Boldedone does not seem to be as suppressive to natural testosterone as is deca.

What do people think of this strategy and would you reckon I would still need anti E's post cycle. If so, what do you recommend?

Looking forward from hearing from someone.

well honestly you don't seem to have much of anything for a real complete cycle. eq should probably be run minimum at 400mg/week for 10-12 weeks. The deca will have you knocked down for awhile even for that short amount of time. I would stock up on the eq to run a real cycle.

[r_deese]

I'm kinda shocked by the fact that you went straight to HGH... lil on the expensive side for a newbie, and it'll fark u up if not done correctly

[Sootybaby]

Don't worry about the hGH. 2IU/day wont be detrimental and was run as an experiment as we are looking into the hGH /IGF-I axis as part of WADA. Not that our bosses know that we are using ourselves as guinea pigs!

The apparently short cycles are due to our cautious nature and we are splitting our product between 2. I am running a more intensive weight programme and my comrade is running a more intensive CV programme.

That being said. Would there be a downside to switching to boldenone after four weeks (we can extend the bold cycle to eight weeks or more. And should we look to anti E's after this mild cycle (can also up the bold to 400mg/wk but dont want to marked an effect for first cycle- I can always go mental at a further date!

thanks for input so far.

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by Sootybaby
Don't worry about the hGH. 2IU/day wont be detrimental and was run as an experiment as we are looking into the hGH /IGF-I axis as part of WADA. Not that our bosses know that we are using ourselves as guinea pigs!

The apparently short cycles are due to our cautious nature and we are splitting our product between 2. I am running a more intensive weight programme and my comrade is running a more intensive CV programme.

That being said. Would there be a downside to switching to boldenone after four weeks (we can extend the bold cycle to eight weeks or more. And should we look to anti E's after this mild cycle (can also up the bold to 400mg/wk but dont want to marked an effect for first cycle- I can always go mental at a further date!

thanks for input so far.

Yes several, go read this for starters On using long esters.

nothing wrong with deca at all. You just need to stack it with something like maybe TEST? All you need to do is add any kind of test and you will be fine. In fact all you have to do is start 400 to 500 mg of test cyp in week 3 and you will be fine. just run the the test 2 weeks longer then the deca, (read the above link for more info on using long esters.

If your worried about growing too fast then don't eat so much. your diet will dictate your gains anyways. just make up some dumb excuse about supliments

And do you homework first next time

[Sootybaby]

Thanks, I will probably stick to deca at the moment and run on its own for a twelve week cycle. I have a recurrence of some shoulder ligament inflammation so I would rather save a stacked cycle until it eases off. I would love to say that the deca is giving some relief from this pain (does it not have an anti-inflammatory effect) but it isn't yet, bugger!

Stonecold How are your shin splints ? I have been doing 2 IU's of jin hGH for about five weeks and I still have problems with my shoulder. (Op 3 months ago to relieve impingment syndome).

hGH does promote collagen formation in connective tissue so it may do some good. I would say that it is good thing 'cos the anabolics tend to accelerate muscle strength in advance of tendon/ligament capability.