Questions on 1st Cycle (GREAT SITE) - SuperiorMuscle.com

Stixs · #1 08-21-04, 05:28 PM

First I would like to say this is a great site and board. It has a lot of great information and after reading the forum for the last few weeks and lot of helpful members. I have tried to do enough research and now I am at a point where I would like some input from the members about a few questions that I have. This is my 1st cycle.

My Stats: 6' 161 pounds, 10% body fat 38 years old. I am in fairly good shape, trying to put on a good solid 20 pounds. Would like to really build of muscle to help with some sports injuries I have had over the years. Active in martial arts and need the body weight to keep up with the younger stronger guys. Worked out most of my life, i get fairly strong, but have never really been able to put on solid weight and keep it on.

1st Question - Coming off shoulder surgery, injured sparring. Currently in therapy, would I benefit from starting a cycle now while in therapy. Would this help strengthen my repaired shoulder. Or should I wait until I am able to fully work out in the gym. I have 6 more weeks of therapy and thought I might benefit from a cycle now.

2nd Question - Some of my gear is a couple of years old such as the Deca 50, but I have kept it in a very cool place and it looks good. Is it still safe to use.

My Gear that I have:
4 of Deca 50mg/ml
1 of Gonadotrophy C (2ml) powder
180 of 5mg dbol
2 of Teston IN 200mg/ml
7 of Deposterona Syntex
6 of Primobolan-Depot 100mg/1ml
1 of Nandrolona Cipionato De 300mg/10ml
8 of Testovis(Testosterone propionato)100mg
1 Gonadotropyl 2ml
30 Clomid 50mg

My 1st Cycle:
Week
1 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
2 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
3 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
4 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
5 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
6 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
7 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
8 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
9 - 300 Nandrolona (Should I add anything here)
10 -300 Nandrolona (Should I add anything here)
11 -
12 -
13 - 100 mg clomid/day
14 - 100 mg clomid/day

Is there anything I should add from my gear list to my first cycle to get the best of this 1st cycle. Should I add something else during week 9 and 10 after the dbol is finished out. Should I substitute anything in place of something else.

Again thanks for all the helpful info. Sorry for the long message just wanted to finalize everything before I start.

Thanks,

Stixs

JUICE · #2 08-21-04, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Stixs

8 of Testovis(Testosterone propionato)100mg

My 1st Cycle:
Week
1 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
2 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
3 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
4 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
5 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
6 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
7 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
8 - 300 Nandrolona, 15mg Dbol/day
9 - 300 Nandrolona (Should I add anything here)
10 -300 Nandrolona (Should I add anything here)
11 -
12 -
13 - 100 mg clomid/day
14 - 100 mg clomid/day

whats up brother. Why not add some test-e or cyp in there bro. I see u got some prop but aint enough unless u get more. But with prop ur gonna need more frequent injections. Everyother day shot. With test-e u can inject weekly at 400-500mgs and be all good. With dbol i would use it for 4 weeks, max 5 weeks. U can use it or start with 25mgs and work way up to 30-35mgs ed. Since u were gonna use it for 8 weeks, just take weeks 5-8 and use it on the first 4 weeks.

Cause if u take the deca alone, it will shut u down brother. U wanna make this cycle awesome, add test in there bro.

Save the rest of the gear u have for another one, but go with test and dbol on this one and use pct.

rippedsucka · #3 08-21-04, 10:15 PM

It would be a good idea to throw in some test on a first cycle, HOWEVER a d-bol only cycle isn't bad for your first time. Some newbies don't like the thought of injecting so they begin with d-bol. now, i don't know if you want to inject now or not but either way a d-bol only cycle isn't bad. Through my research i've gathered one can expect to keep about 40% (in some cases it could be more in some it could be less)of their gains with proper nutrition and PCT on a d-bol cycle.

DiamondCutCows · #4 08-21-04, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by rippedsucka
It would be a good idea to throw in some test on a first cycle, HOWEVER a d-bol only cycle isn't bad for your first time.

I disagree. IMHO only vets should do that as they know how to eat and recover!

Nothing wrong with the Deca/Dbol IMO. It was used as the #1 cycle for MANY years. Although I do agree that Test would make the cycle a monster! And ur pee-pee will work (Which is a good thing)

rippedsucka · #5 08-21-04, 10:32 PM

Perhaps you're right. But,In my experiences many vets, not necessarily all on this board, recommend D-bol only cycles to beginners. I've never done it, but you obviously have much more experience than I.

DiamondCutCows · #6 08-21-04, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by rippedsucka
obviously have much more experience than I.

Im not very experienced (1 cycle under belt, bout to be 2) but I am VERY well read in this field.

Anyways the biggest supporter I know of Dbol only cycles is Mavy over on Elite. Checl him if anyone wants some support with this, lol.

Stixs · #7 08-22-04, 04:15 AM

Thanks everyone for the help. I will go with the deca/dbol combo for the first cycle and go with the dbol for the first 4 weeks. Which test should I go with and when should I kick it in. I was going to do the deca once a week. I have the choice to do either the deposterona or the testovis. Which one would you guys recommend and how much for how long the whole 10 weeks. Should I start with the test from the beginning. Also if the 2weeks of Clomid ok.

Appreciate the help.

DiamondCutCows · #8 08-22-04, 04:19 AM

Kick in the Test? Not sure what you mean there bro.

To simplify go like this (for example)

wks 1-4 25mg Dbol per day
wks 1-10 300mg Test (If short esther divide by EOD)
wks 1-10 300mg Deca
follow with PCT and its all wonderful in your little world...

Read the PCT sticky up top ^^^

JUICE · #9 08-22-04, 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by Stixs
Thanks everyone for the help. I will go with the deca/dbol combo for the first cycle and go with the dbol for the first 4 weeks. Which test should I go with and when should I kick it in. I was going to do the deca once a week. I have the choice to do either the deposterona or the testovis. Which one would you guys recommend and how much for how long the whole 10 weeks. Should I start with the test from the beginning. Also if the 2weeks of Clomid ok.

Appreciate the help.

Yeah start Test as soon as u start the cycle.

well since i saw bro that u got (8 Testovis) 100mgs. I dont think that will be enough bro. Cause at one shot every other day, that will only be enough for 20 days total (1on, 1off). So u might need more than that there.

I would go with a long ester (test enanathe or cyp). U will only need one shot every week. And it should kick around the 3-4 week. Well with the dbol it kicks in faster, thats why ur gonna jumpstart it with that.

Stixs · #10 08-22-04, 05:59 AM

For the test I actually have 2 "Teston In Ol" 200mg/10ml would this be good enough, if I took 300mg(1.5cc) of this a week. Can I take this once a week.

JUICE · #11 08-22-04, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by Stixs
For the test I actually have 2 "Teston In Ol" 200mg/10ml would this be good enough, if I took 300mg(1.5cc) of this a week. Can I take this once a week.

Yeah bro, that would be perfect. Once a week will do

DiamondCutCows · #12 08-22-04, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Stixs
For the test I actually have 2 "Teston In Ol" 200mg/10ml would this be good enough, if I took 300mg(1.5cc) of this a week. Can I take this once a week.

Did he type that correctly? 200mg/10ml??

20mg/ml? What esther is that test?