Equipoise only cycle,Have u done one?

[pypes]

Well,
As some of you know I am planning a 20 weeker of equipoise
and only enough test to stay sexually active.
So my question is this has any one done a eq only cycle!?

I have heard it being done with "NO" test at all for long duration cycles,I have not used eq yet and am very excited too!
I want slow steady quality muscular gains.

wk.
1-20 = 600-800mg. EQUIPOISE per week.
100mg. test propionate e.o.d
OR
400mg. t-400 per week
Please share your expierence please

[YellowJacket]

Thats enough test to gain from, if you havent done 4 or 5 cycles before.

[hitmansb]

I've made good gains doing EQ only...with just a cap a day of androstene (normally don't use prohormones, but it was a long time ago and I had no access to anything else at the time) to keep the sex drive up. I ran it for 10 weeks and had decent results...so I can't imagine you not getting some nice gains doing 20 weeks.

[THE BOUNCER]

Never ran it alone, dont think I would either. EQ is a good drug but I feel it should be stacked.

[rvgfrth4g]

I've heard its not wise to run EQ over 16wks. Cause of the increased blood volume. Some smart bro over on EF told me that, and he calculated exactly how much more blood volume it would be than normal at wk 12. And also how much more it would be at wk 16. Cause i also thought about running for 20wks. But he told me if i run over 16 wks then i definetly need to have blood work done. Unfortunetly, i can't remember the guys name who told me this.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally posted by BigRed54
I've heard its not wise to run EQ over 16wks. Cause of the increased blood volume. Some smart bro over on EF told me that, and he calculated exactly how much more blood volume it would be than normal at wk 12. And also how much more it would be at wk 16. Cause i also thought about running for 20wks. But he told me if i run over 16 wks then i definetly need to have blood work done. Unfortunetly, i can't remember the guys name who told me this.

EQ kicks in best in the later weeks. I have personally run it for over a year straight.

[rude]

Why would EQ make a person lose their libedo since its Test based?

[bjtheman]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
Never ran it alone, dont think I would either. EQ is a good drug but I feel it should be stacked.

I agree!

[rvgfrth4g]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
EQ kicks in best in the later weeks. I have personally run it for over a year straight.

Well i didn't say its never been done though. Kinda like the Pro's stay on tons of gear all the time but that doesn't mean its safe. But they do get check ups with the doctor alot.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally posted by BigRed54
Well i didn't say its never been done though. Kinda like the Pro's stay on tons of gear all the time but that doesn't mean its safe. But they do get check ups with the doctor alot.

What im saying bro is, EQ is better at longer periods. not sure were you heard about the blood volume thing but if you have any studies i would like to see them.

[rvgfrth4g]

I doubt there are any studies to find on EQ. I do agree though that EQ is better at longer periods. I think whoever told me might be on to something. But it might not affect all people. Just like some people can stay on a cycle for years and have no problems. And other people have all kinds of sides in just a 12wks cycle. But i know since i don't have a studies then it sounds like i'm shooting shit out of my mouth. I was only repeating what the guy told me. It did sound interesting though.

[rude]

Originally posted by rude
Why would EQ make a person lose their libedo since its Test based?

any thoughts?

[granby140]

will def lean yoiu out but dont look for drastic gains

[Nekrawulf]

Sex drive is directly correlated with the testosterone hormone, boldelone is a testosterone analouge, but the CNS does not recognize it as such, so it does not stimulate the sex drive as test would. This being said, because it is an androgen based drug, it will supress test production and thus reduce sex drive.

EQ only cycles are wonderful for LBM gains and esp repairing joints....but I would reccomend running a small amouint of test with it... Check for the Article on EQ based ligament repair using the search forum...it should proved you with some very useful info.

[rvgfrth4g]

Thats the best answer i've heard about why EQ decreases sex drive. But why is it that EQ sometimes increases sex drive? Cause i've done many EQ only cycles and it was increased?

[Mudge]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
What im saying bro is, EQ is better at longer periods. not sure were you heard about the blood volume thing but if you have any studies i would like to see them.

It has to do with red blood cell count, MD types seem to not recommend going over 400mg period. Now of course a larger than average person, and a person not prone to blood clots, will probably do fine. It may well even have to do with blood types, I think a doc or Billy would have to comment further.

But yes, everyone says towards the end of the cycle is when it really starts to show its serious vascularity increases etc, I wonder how much of that is blood pressure though.

[Nekrawulf]

Originally posted by BigRed54
Thats the best answer i've heard about why EQ decreases sex drive. But why is it that EQ sometimes increases sex drive? Cause i've done many EQ only cycles and it was increased?

This question can be answered 2 ways...

One is the fact that everyone reacts differently do different drugs. Mabey your body sees the analouge as the real thing. And therefore triggers your CNS to activate the instinctual sex drive.

Second is the placebo effect. The two compounds are extremely similar, and have very similiar reactions within the body. Couple that with the fact that you know its an anabolic steriod, and you can actually trick your body sumbliminally into thinking that it is "supposed" to have a higher sex drive.

[rvgfrth4g]

Originally posted by Mudge
It has to do with red blood cell count, MD types seem to not recommend going over 400mg period. Now of course a larger than average person, and a person not prone to blood clots, will probably do fine. It may well even have to do with blood types, I think a doc or Billy would have to comment further.

But yes, everyone says towards the end of the cycle is when it really starts to show its serious vascularity increases etc, I wonder how much of that is blood pressure though.

So doing a cycle of 1,200mg a wk, for 12wks might not be recommended?

[duque21]

Well I just posted about this same exact subject over at mindnandmuscle.net


I just came off of a test/Eq cycle, where at the end I was shooting 1g of Eq per week, and I dropped the test from 1g to 250mg

What I noticed blew my mind, although I dropped the test to alost nothing, while bumping up the Eq I made my best gains and strength went up through the the roof even after week 18.

I am very tempted to run an heavy Eq cycle and see where it gets me, as far as increased blood volume...I would not invest much worry into the idea, but I guess it would not hurt to keep an eye on blood pressure and other signs of health.

[Mudge]

Originally posted by BigRed54
So doing a cycle of 1,200mg a wk, for 12wks might not be recommended?

So far as I recall thats what bouncer was doing, 1200/1200. You have to use your own judgement, and experience to make that determination.

Who knows who the article I read was targeted at, are they talking about 150 pound test subjects or 250 pound, I have no idea since they didn't state that unfortunately.

[pypes]