test propionate thoughts

[martialartist11]

I don't consider myself a professional chemist or any thing but here are a few thoughts of mine.

I'm assuming that the benzoate ester in the 17 poss. of the estragen make that molecule highly hydrophobic. I thought that maybe one could treat a soln. of synovex pellets aq. in MeOH with the anhydride of the propionate ester. This way you would not change the test and the ester of the estrogen would be much smaller. My thought is that with this decrease in hydrophobic suface area purhaps the 3-hydroxyl group would make the estrogen water soluble.

I also was wondering if i just did a saponification and isolated straight test. could I treat with work up of a desired anhydride and get an esterified Test.

Those were just a few thoughts I had.

[hitmansb]

spidey or skyefire should be able to answer this for you

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by hitmansb
spidey or skyefire should be able to answer this for you

LOL- I had to consult my dictionary for almost every word except "I".

[Slashmonay]

lmao...i didnt understand anything on that bullshit post

[Cmsmallzz]

Originally posted by Slashmonay
lmao...i didnt understand anything on that bullshit post

LOL...This dude is making life too difficult if you ask me! Bro try posting this in the chemistry discussion.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by stonecold54
LOL- I had to consult my dictionary for almost every word except "I".

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by martialartist11
I don't consider myself a professional chemist or any thing but here are a few thoughts of mine.

I'm assuming that the benzoate ester in the 17 poss. of the estragen make that molecule highly hydrophobic. I thought that maybe one could treat a soln. of synovex pellets aq. in MeOH with the anhydride of the propionate ester. This way you would not change the test and the ester of the estrogen would be much smaller. My thought is that with this decrease in hydrophobic suface area purhaps the 3-hydroxyl group would make the estrogen water soluble.

I also was wondering if i just did a saponification and isolated straight test. could I treat with work up of a desired anhydride and get an esterified Test.

Those were just a few thoughts I had.

Spidy will corect any thing I get wrong (please)here so here it goes:
Forget the first part bro. Unless I am misunderstanding you that isn't how it works. If you want to remove the estrogen from the pellets then just use a large sterically hindered base to make a salt out of the estrogen benz. (that is how dazed kits work I believe)

for the other first things first, salt the estrogen out and saponify the propanate ester using sodium hydroxide or another strong base and wash thourghly until you have pure test base powder.

second would be to desovle the dry test powder in pyridine then react it with the acid cloride of choice for the desired ester.

a easier method might be to desove the test in the actual organic acid and react it with a mineral catalyst (hydrocloric would be ideal).

BTW, its really is easier just to buy the finshed product. even if you can get everthing you need it still cost more.

[CreepingDeath]

^my thoughts exactly lol

[Cmsmallzz]

Originally posted by Skyefire
BTW, its really is easier just to buy the finshed product. even if you can get everthing you need it still cost more.

AMEN!

[martialartist11]

Thanks for your imput. I appreciate the help. I think I'm going to buy the kit and convert my own and also try a few experiments in the lab to see what kind of products I can yield. I'll keep ya posted on my turnouts.

[martialartist11]

I went to my organic professor and showed him a write up of Testosterone Propionate in solution and Estradiol Benzoate aq. in MeOH. We both agreed that a sterically hindered base would react with the propionate ester before the benzoate. Just a little thought. Dazed has got it down. I orederd one of his kits and I guess I'll just have to believe it works instead of understanding. As long as I get big, It doesn't matter.