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Old 11-22-04, 11:25 AM
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Hey everyone, it's time for my 5th cycle, we'll be putting on the weight with this one. Current stats are 185 lbs and 5'9" about 9% bf. Diet and training will be posted in the journal area, just wanted to get some feedback if i needed to change anything with the supplements.

History:
Cycle 1
week 1-4 dbol 30mg ED
week 1-12 sus 500mg
week 1-12 EQ 400mg
week 1-12 liquidex .25mg ED

Cycle 2
week 1-12 prop 75mg ED
week 1-8 tren 50mg ED
week 9-12 winny 50mg ED
week 1,2,5,6,9,10 clen
week 1-12 liquidex .25mg ED

Cycle 3
week 1-12 EQ 467mg (200mg E3D)
week 1-13 test E 583mg (250mg E3D)
week 1-13 t3 25 mcgs ED
week 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
week 5-12 tren 75mg ED
week 14-15 prop 75mg ED
week 1-15 liquidex .5mg ED

Cycle 4
week 1-12 prop 75mg ED
week 1-8 tren 75mg ED
week 9-12 winny 55 mg ED
week 4-10 t3 ramp up and down, max 100 mcgs ED
week 1,2,5,6,9,10 clen

What I'm planning on running this winter...

Week 1-12 EQ 583mg (250mg E3D)
Week 1-13 Test E 700mg (300mg E3D)
Week 1-14 T3 25mcgs ED
Week 1-6 Dbol 50mg ED
Week 7-14 Tren 80mg ED
Week 14-15 Prop 100mg ED
Week 15-18 IGF 40mcgs 6 Days a week
Week 1-15 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Week 16-18 PCT

Supplements:
Protein
R-ALA
Milk Thistle
Glucasmine/MSM/Chondroiton
CLA
Multivitamin
Flax Seed Oil


What do you think? I want to investigate the effects of IGF on my own body, and I thought using it during PCT would be a good indication if I respond well to it. I know T3 is good to run with GH, but I don't recall reading that it had a synergy effect with IGF. Any ideas on that one?

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Old 11-22-04, 05:17 PM
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Can't really comment on the cycle because I haven't used some of the compounds that you're using. But, I can say that 12.5 mg ED of Aromasin is probably not enough. I'm in the 4th week of this cycle:

1-3 prop 150 mgs eod
1-6 dbol 40 mgs ed
1-17 cyp 800 mg/week
1-16 eq 600mg/week
1-16 nand deca 200mg/week

Had to bump the Aroma from 12.5 mg ED to 25 mg ED because I was on bloat. Dropped 2 lbs of water in 2 days.
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Old 11-23-04, 01:11 PM
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Can't really comment on the cycle because I haven't used some of the compounds that you're using. But, I can say that 12.5 mg ED of Aromasin is probably not enough. I'm in the 4th week of this cycle:

1-3 prop 150 mgs eod
1-6 dbol 40 mgs ed
1-17 cyp 800 mg/week
1-16 eq 600mg/week
1-16 nand deca 200mg/week

Had to bump the Aroma from 12.5 mg ED to 25 mg ED because I was on bloat. Dropped 2 lbs of water in 2 days.
Thanks for the info bro. Bloat doesn't really bother me, but how about any signs of gyno with your cycle and only 12.5 ED?
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Old 11-23-04, 02:17 PM
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No signs of gyno at 12.5 mg ED, but, then again, I didn't give it much time to set in.

Drop by from time to time and update us on your progress.

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Old 11-23-04, 02:58 PM
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I don't like the mcg for 14 weeks even if it is 25mcg. If you want to run it that long (which I don't suggest) I'd run it at 12.5mcg

Great post format though, what will your diet look like though? I can't comment on aromasin or IGF-1 but the rest looks solid. With a 15 weeker you may want to throw HCG in there sometime to keep the boys around.
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Old 11-24-04, 04:47 PM
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I don't like the mcg for 14 weeks even if it is 25mcg. If you want to run it that long (which I don't suggest) I'd run it at 12.5mcg

Great post format though, what will your diet look like though? I can't comment on aromasin or IGF-1 but the rest looks solid. With a 15 weeker you may want to throw HCG in there sometime to keep the boys around.
The diet is VERY precise. 4000 calories, 90g fat, 400g carbs, 410g protein. 7 meals a day, etc...
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Old 11-26-04, 01:36 AM
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well your diet looks good and the cycle does too except i personally don't think i'd run the t3 for 14 weeks
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Old 11-26-04, 09:24 AM
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why the prop at 14 and 15?

i would extend the eq

drop the dbol by 2 weeks - 6 weeks at that dose is going to be real harsh on your liver and kidneys

14 weeks of t3 why?? if running gh with it i would understand





Week 1-14 EQ 583mg (250mg E3D)
Week 1- 10 Test E 700mg (300mg E3D)
Week 1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
Week 10-16 Tren 80mg ED
Week 10-16 Prop 100mg ED
Week 16-19 IGF 40mcgs 6 Days a week
Week 1-15 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Week 16-18 PCT


how about something like this
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Old 11-26-04, 06:00 PM
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Bump what everyone else said. Do the t3 either 3 days on 1 day off, 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, or 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. This will help keep your thyroid from shutting completely down. The aromasin, I had good results on 12.5 ed along with 20mg of nolvadex, on 1g of test weekly among other things, everyone is different, so I would suggest starting at 12.5 and work up if need be (its expensive! LOL!). Start HCG at week 5 at 500iu twice weekly (Sun/Wed or Mon/Thurs) and run it to the week prior to your PCT, and make sure your taking at least 20mg of Nolvadex with it so it won't desensitize your HPTA and also, so it doesn't cause gyno (usually only causes at high doses, but just in case). My .02
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