Warning number 2 on steroids.

[THE BOUNCER]

Take a look at this.

My point of posting this is to let anyone know that is thinking about using steroids that once you get into this life it is very hard to get out. Think long and hard if steroids are worth it to you. When you dont have your health you have nothing.

http://steroidsviciouscycles.com/HTM...hotos2Win.html

[Stonecold54]

interesting stuff. it makes you think. and I am more convinced to back off on all my extras.

[Smithcb9]

that was very good to listen to, I was thinking about taking alot of different stuff and it makes me think to myself........
thank u very much bouncer

I was wondering if creatine is a natural supplement?????

[r_deese]

dang, the size difference is pretty dramatic since he came off. definitely a good link and some good info for those of us who are overdoing it... and for what... it's not how we make our money

[Neuromancer]

Yes, creatine is natural although the newer ethly ester creatine is not naturally occuing.

[Smithcb9]

and another Q what is the best creatine to take and where from and the band????????

cuz i am currently taking Higher power nutrition creatine 1000
Can anyone give me any pros or cons about this creatine?????????

[Primal Instinct]

Good post, Bouncer! It's always best to hear stuff like that from someone who had already been there. We can all learn from his experience without having to learn it the hard way. Shit, he took the human version of GH- That IS scary shit. Granted, he didn't know the risk involved then but does any of us really know how long term AAS/Prohormones usage will affect our bodies 20 years from now? I hope the young guys took his story to heart. Thanks again, Bouncer.


PS. He looks pretty good in his recent pic resulting from resuming natural training.

[BBAddict]

Thats scary-I'm sure he's an extreme, but it does make you think.
On the other hand, if a guy like him can look the way he did on AAS, that's pretty incredible.

[Timma]

Imagine what Ronnie or Cutler will look like if they come off. Very good find Bouncer.

[lxorl]

interesting vid... thanks for sharing.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally posted by Timma
Imagine what Ronnie or Cutler will look like if they come off. Very good find Bouncer.

Thats not always true bro. Of cource they would be smaller then they are now and they would loose that "wow" factor but they would by know means be small. Hell, I myself have been off now for 2 months and have not lost a pound. Granted I gained some bodyfat but that was due to the increased eating so I wouldnt loose the size.

[Timma]

But the thing is that guy stopeed working out. I meant if Ronnie and Jay came off and stopped working out. You haven't stopped either. That and your diet is what is making you keep the size.

[Wolfhound]

Good post Bouncer, that definitely makes me think. I never did aas before because I could never find any. Now I've got some, but I haven't started them yet. I keep thinking that these are the only ones I'll ever need to do to hit my goal.

[sekcbeast]

Hey Bouncer, i got a question for ya. after being off for two months and experiencing what it feels like to come off, and with stories like this, how do you feel about doing another cycle? i remember you saying that you were just giving your body a rest and then would return to AAS. i was just wondering if anything has changed since then.

sekc

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally posted by sekcbeast
Hey Bouncer, i got a question for ya. after being off for two months and experiencing what it feels like to come off, and with stories like this, how do you feel about doing another cycle? i remember you saying that you were just giving your body a rest and then would return to AAS. i was just wondering if anything has changed since then.

sekc

i will go back on but it will most likely be test only. no orals, no other compounds.

Nice video. To me it just isn't worth it.

Also interesting, I didn't know that GH gut was from the internal organs growing too large, causing your gut to protrude.

[spidey]

I think people like him didn't know as much about AAS in general back in the day as we do now. If he had done proper PCT and kept up his diet and worked out, I seriously doubt he would have lost it all like that.

Also, his injuries are more a function of his crazy training methods than they are of his drug use. I know people (my brother in law is a good example) who have never touched AAS that are worse off physically than that guy and for the same reason. They pushed their bodies past their limitations and shit had to give.

My bro-in-law has has major surgeries on both hips, both knees, both shoulders, both elbows, and both wrists. He has had at least one knee totally replaced. What led to his problems? Well, being forced by the army to jump out of helecopters at 15 to 20 ft with a full pack without a parachute is likely what did his knees in. Being a 5th degree blackbelt in Taiquando (sp?) and doing crazy shit like punching through 10 concrete blocks (I have seen the photo) probably did his wrists, elbows, and shoulders in. The human body just can't take that kind of punishment without having long term repercussions.

[spidey]

Originally posted by Keiser
Nice video. To me it just isn't worth it.

Also interesting, I didn't know that GH gut was from the internal organs growing too large, causing your gut to protrude.

More of a function of the GH and the elevated levels of IGF-1 it causes than insulin use but, yeah, that's why it is called "GH gut".

[Akamai]

Boucer instead of test consider primobolin. Just a thought.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by Akamai
Boucer instead of test consider primobolin. Just a thought.

that is where I am headed. Primo from now on. that and a light dose of GH.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally posted by spidey
I think people like him didn't know as much about AAS in general back in the day as we do now. If he had done proper PCT and kept up his diet and worked out, I seriously doubt he would have lost it all like that.

Also, his injuries are more a function of his crazy training methods than they are of his drug use. I know people (my brother in law is a good example) who have never touched AAS that are worse off physically than that guy and for the same reason. They pushed their bodies past their limitations and shit had to give.

My bro-in-law has has major surgeries on both hips, both knees, both shoulders, both elbows, and both wrists. He has had at least one knee totally replaced. What led to his problems? Well, being forced by the army to jump out of helecopters at 15 to 20 ft with a full pack without a parachute is likely what did his knees in. Being a 5th degree blackbelt in Taiquando (sp?) and doing crazy shit like punching through 10 concrete blocks (I have seen the photo) probably did his wrists, elbows, and shoulders in. The human body just can't take that kind of punishment without having long term repercussions.

While you are correct that many things led to his problems, the point still remains. Steroids can be dangerous and for anyone thinking about using them should think long and hard before doing so. The one thing that he didnt speak to much about is the mental aspects. To me, that has been the hardest part.

[Akamai]

Originally posted by stonecold54
that is where I am headed. Primo from now on. that and a light dose of GH.

Just what I was thinking.

[BBAddict]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
While you are correct that many things led to his problems, the point still remains. Steroids can be dangerous and for anyone thinking about using them should think long and hard before doing so. The one thing that he didnt speak to much about is the mental aspects. To me, that has been the hardest part.

But can't AAS also allow your muscles to move weights that the rest of your body (tendons, etc.) are not capable of dealing with the stress? Even as a natty, it seems the muscular development outpaces some of my joint capabilities. Biologically, I know it takes much longer for a tendon to rebuild than a muscle.

[AlmostThere]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
While you are correct that many things led to his problems, the point still remains. Steroids can be dangerous and for anyone thinking about using them should think long and hard before doing so. The one thing that he didnt speak to much about is the mental aspects. To me, that has been the hardest part.

Truer words were never spoken.

[DS-COUSIN]

Nice....very nice...You are a good man Charlie Brown...