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Old 12-18-04, 09:56 AM
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Test and Deca cycle

I am reading up to get some information on taking my first cycle. I am also talking to someone at the gym who has been on roids for a while. Anyway, he said I should take Deca and test for 8 weeks.

Week 1- Deca 600mg
Week 1-8 Test 400mg
Week 2-8 Deca 400 mg

I told him I had been doing a lot of reading on here and was hearing about things like clomid and proviron? He said I wouldn't need to worry about that, just to take something called 6 ox? after my cycle. Does this sound ok?

I am 21, 6'1" and 193. Probably bf is around 10-12%. Like I said I am new, and I am just trying to get some info, anything you guys have to say, would be appreciated.

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Old 12-18-04, 10:27 AM
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first of all welcome bro


second--

do a test only --save the deca for another time-


test -- weeks 1 - 10 - 400 mgs

pct -- start 2 weeks after your last injection -- nolva 40 mgs for 14 days the 20 mgs for another 14 days --


nice and simple
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Old 12-18-04, 01:13 PM
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first of all welcome bro


second--

do a test only --save the deca for another time-


test -- weeks 1 - 10 - 400 mgs

pct -- start 2 weeks after your last injection -- nolva 40 mgs for 14 days the 20 mgs for another 14 days --


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Old 12-18-04, 01:15 PM
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another thing woody, how long have you been in the gym and how is your diet?? you need to have those things nailed before getting into the gear, because it won't do much for you without that.
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Old 12-18-04, 02:48 PM
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Well my diet is pretty much see food, and eat it. I work landscaping in Florida, so that tends to burn alot of the fat off. I have been in the gym for a little over a year, but I go consistently, and I think I train hard. I have been very happy with my progress so far, just wanting that extra push.

You said to do a test only cycle, does that mean it is pretty much useless to include the deca? Also this nolva, is that over the counter or do I get that from the same guy I got the gear from? Thanks a lot for the info

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Old 12-18-04, 02:58 PM
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Dude i really dont think you need to cycle yet. You dont have any clue as to what you are doing and are just going to do what people tell you to. Research and learn the whats, whys, and whens. Understand the chemicals, and how they will affect you long and short term. Understand what PCT stands for... do you follow me? You are not ready to embark on this journey yet IMOP, however if you decide to forge on... take the advice of house1 he knows his shit.

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Dude i really dont think you need to cycle yet. You dont have any clue as to what you are doing and are just going to do what people tell you to. Research and learn the whats, whys, and whens. Understand the chemicals, and how they will affect you long and short term. Understand what PCT stands for... do you follow me? You are not ready to embark on this journey yet IMOP, however if you decide to forge on... take the advice of house1 he knows his shit.

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very true. 21 is still young to get started if you haven't been training consistent for a couple of years. at 6'1 193 being 21 it sounds like you have a good base to work with. i recommend to try eating 6-8 meals a day and get in at LEAST 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight and really bust your ass in the gym for a good hour at least 4 days a week and see what you can gain naturally for a while. then when you feel like you've reached the plateau to where you just don't feel you can grow anymore than maybe consider the gear. i'm saying this because i am 20 and am currently doing this and it has been working wonders for me. read up in the natural training and diet section has much as you can bro, your body is raging with test as it is. steroids aren't magic. but of course, the decision is on you, and if you decide to take the plunge def. take house1's advice, don't even worry with deca at the time.
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Bro, don't take this personally. If I knew you at the gym I would slap you. YOU ARE 21 YEARS OLD why do you want to take gear, and shut down your natural Test production which it is at it's highest now? these are the best years of your life to work out, get laid, eat what you want, without having to worry about shit consequenses that can be avoided! BRO LISTEN here work out natural a few years, build yourself a foundation, then think about a cycle at 27. You're too young to worry about clomid, deca and shit like that. What you have to do is focus on your financial goals and relationships with girls. Don't be an idiot. Later!
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totally agree you dont need deca d**k at age of 21
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Old 12-18-04, 11:12 PM
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All right guys, it sounds like you all agree so I will take your advice and stay natural. I appreciate all of your info.

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Dude i really dont think you need to cycle yet. You dont have any clue as to what you are doing and are just going to do what people tell you to. Research and learn the whats, whys, and whens. Understand the chemicals, and how they will affect you long and short term. Understand what PCT stands for... do you follow me? You are not ready to embark on this journey yet IMOP, however if you decide to forge on... take the advice of house1 he knows his shit.

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