do i need pct for this cycle??

[bigfitz]

40 mg of winny tabs a day for 6 weeks, and clen, throughout, 2 weeks on...2 weeks off...2 on...etc. can only get my hands on nolva. would really appreciate the help!!

[therock]

Nolva will be fine for this cycle.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by bigfitz
40 mg of winny tabs a day for 6 weeks, and clen, throughout, 2 weeks on...2 weeks off...2 on...etc. can only get my hands on nolva. would really appreciate the help!!

no pct needed for winny or clen

[therock]

Originally posted by ROCKETW19
no pct needed for winny or clen

So I can run winny and clen right after pct w/ no problem? If you answer no then you would need pct. I am confused.

[SloppyJo]

i would just use nolva in case... it wont hurt

[joe bigboy]

you arent probably arent shut down much at all from that cycle but if you have nolva then i'd run it anyway just to be safe

[therock]

Originally posted by therock
So I can run winny and clen right after pct w/ no problem? If you answer no then you would need pct. I am confused.

Sorry I didnt make my self understandable. What I meant was I just got off a deca, test cycle that was for 8wks. Had to stop cause of work and its been about a month maybe alittle more and I am done with pct. Finished 2 days ago. Could I jump on clen and winny with no problem? Cause I dont think I could, but if yall say that there is no need for pct after a cycle like this then it seems that I could. I wanted to cut up real good b4 I start my next cycle in March or April.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by therock
Sorry I didnt make my self understandable. What I meant was I just got off a deca, test cycle that was for 8wks. Had to stop cause of work and its been about a month maybe alittle more and I am done with pct. Finished 2 days ago. Could I jump on clen and winny with no problem? Cause I dont think I could, but if yall say that there is no need for pct after a cycle like this then it seems that I could. I wanted to cut up real good b4 I start my next cycle in March or April.

yes you can winny or clen will not shut you down.

[therock]

You think it will be catabolic w/o test?

[therock]

Oh also, I have never taken either how should i start.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by therock
You think it will be catabolic w/o test?

no winny is anabolic and clen is belived to be also by many. i use clen after pct is over for that reason

[therock]

So I can run them both right after pct, then jump on a cycle 2months later? Cause thats what I plan on doing but dont want to mess up natural recovery. If I can do this then I was also thinking about running Proviron with it aswell. Let me know bro. I was always a firm believer that running anything after pct is not good but recently everything I read tells me otherwise.

[Arralou]

Why does not winstrol shut you down? I thought all steroids did.. I would run clomid to be safe.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by therock
So I can run them both right after pct, then jump on a cycle 2months later? Cause thats what I plan on doing but dont want to mess up natural recovery. If I can do this then I was also thinking about running Proviron with it aswell. Let me know bro. I was always a firm believer that running anything after pct is not good but recently everything I read tells me otherwise.

proviron is a androgen, that does not turn into estrogen and does not make the body produce test. witch means you can use this also without getting shut down.

[therock]

But will they effect the recovery rate of natural test or any of that of pct?

[therock]

Also would running Winny at 50mgs ed for 4-5wks be good enough? First time I am going to run winny.