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Old 03-29-05, 09:55 PM
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Gains after cycle?

Hey everyone, i have a confession to make, about 8months ago i did a cycle of test e and i was only 19 years old. i know im really young to have done a cycle, and i didnt do any pct. at the time i was unaware of pct and was stupid to do that cycle. Now i have learned so much from this site, and i wish i never did that cycle. Now my question is this, because i did that cycle, will making gains natural be really hard now? i mean i havent been gaining too much until now, now that i have adjusted my diet. but my gains are minimal, i was wondering if there is hope for me, or am i screwed because i did that cycle? i am training really hard now and paying much more attention to my diet. please let me know if my efforts are in vain. and the only way my body can gain again is if i do another cycle? i dont want to resort to AAS because of all the info i have learned about the effects of doing it this young. i know i made a mistake.
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Old 03-29-05, 10:26 PM
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Your work is not in vain at all. You will be a little discouraged probably because you won't make the gains you did on AS. How long was your cycle and how much? Others will probably be able to help you better on this, but I would feel confident in saying you didn't damage your body long term.
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Old 03-29-05, 11:47 PM
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I agree, I don't think you damaged anything longterm. If you want to gain naturaly or on AS you just have to eat..eat..eat..eat oh yeah, and eat. Your gains will most def. be slower while your natural. Just don't get down on yourself, the results will come.
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I agree, I don't think you damaged anything longterm. If you want to gain naturaly or on AS you just have to eat..eat..eat..eat oh yeah, and eat. Your gains will most def. be slower while your natural. Just don't get down on yourself, the results will come.
the eatin part is where its at like you i learned that here! my girl makes anywere form 3-5lbs of chicken breast and i just eat that shit all day long of coarse i eat other things also but thats the base of my diet.
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i did entant test 200, 500mg for about 10weeks accually i think it was less then 10 weeks i cant remember excatly. i gained about 20lbs of lean mass and i kept all i gained beacause i worked out hard after and eat more then i did while on cycle
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you kept all your gains without doing PCT?
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Old 03-30-05, 09:42 AM
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i did entant test 200, 500mg for about 10weeks accually i think it was less then 10 weeks i cant remember excatly. i gained about 20lbs of lean mass and i kept all i gained beacause i worked out hard after and eat more then i did while on cycle

Good work... thats good that you kept your gains.
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Old 03-30-05, 10:29 AM
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yes i kept all my gains because i only weighted 145 and never ate as much as i did on cycle and after i should have done pct but i was unaware at the time, and didnt know where to get it, and i still dont ive looked at the sponsers on this site but i cant find nolvadex or clomid
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Old 03-30-05, 10:36 AM
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well actually lion nutrition carries both... just because its not called clomid or nolva they do sell them. Clomid is clomi and nolva is liquadex i think.
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is clomid and nolva illegal?
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Old 03-30-05, 11:41 AM
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well actually lion nutrition carries both... just because its not called clomid or nolva they do sell them. Clomid is clomi and nolva is liquadex i think.
nolva is not l-dex 2 totaly different things. i will go on there site and see what they call them im guess its the chemical name.
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is clomid and nolva illegal?
no they are not. and they are under the chemical name clomid is clomi short for (clomiphene citrate) nolvdex is tamox short for (tamoxifen citrate)
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skinnyguy, keep up the faith in the gym. Your gains will be slower but you will make them if you stay consistant. Remember, you learn nothing from success but everything from your challenges (some call failures). So consider this one of your well learned challenges and persevere, train hard and continue to inform yourself. Good job, there hope for the youth yet!
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nolva is not l-dex 2 totaly different things. i will go on there site and see what they call them im guess its the chemical name.


What exactly is liqudex then?
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What exactly is liqudex then?
it is liquid arimidex (anastrozole) nolvadex blockes estrogen from receptors a-dex stops estrogen from being made!
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