PCT Question (Confused)

[Stixs]

Hey Everyone,

Been reading on the site for a while now and have gained a lot of knowledge and have asked many questions. I have decided to do only a test only cycle in the next 6 months to a year. I have been working out and get the eating program correct.

The biggest part I am confused about is the PCT, I know this has to be done and I have clomid 30 tabs of 50mg. After reading many post and the answers I am still confused as to the use of Clomid or Nolvadex. Some say use both some say Clomid, some say Nolvadex. So I have the following two questions:

1.) How to determine which to take, are both necessary

2.) Some discussions also talk about taking these during a cycle mostly Nolvadex.

I appreciate the help. I have read just about all the info on the board and this is the only item I am really confused about what is really needed.

Thanks

[Lmg2701]

1.) Determine which to take by trial and error. Hate to say it but we're all different and all you're going to get is mixed answers on PCT. You're going to have to start at one place and try different thing. Both aren't necessary but it may be better to go with the "better safe than sorry" thought process.

2.) Personally I don't take nolvadex during the cycle. Some people do, some people will start taking it when they start to see signs of gyno. Once again better safe than sorry so I'll usually take liquidex the whole way through instead. If you want to get into more we could start talking about what anti-estrogen to take based on what form of gyno you could get but you might want to do some research on that for yourself. Search for progestrone gyno. If you're running just test than liquidex would be a good way to go to avoid gyno.

Happy Cycling!

[hitmansb]

I'm an advocate of using nolvadex and clomid for pct...I find that the combination of the two provides a more rapid recovery than using one or the other.

I don't use either during a cycle...I use anti-aromatases during cycles to control my estrogen.

[Stixs]

Thanks for the info and help. BTW hitmansb, could you explain to me a little more your reasoning about using both, or from experience it just works best for you. Have you ever tried just one for PCT.

Thanks.

[hitmansb]

I have tried nolva alone for pct, and it didn't give me nearly as fast a recovery as the combination of clomid and nolva does.

[hitmansb]

Let me add to that by stating that once PCT is complete, don't use any old tribulis to crank test production back up. Go with Tribestan; it costs more, but it's worth it. I allowed someone to talk me into trying a different brand after my latest bout of PCT...NEVER AGAIN!!! I ditched it after 10 days and bought some Tribestan, and felt fantastic 24 hours later. Here's how I usually like to do PCT:

Days 1-10 500iu HCG, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 11-17 100mg Clomid, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 18-24 50mg Clomid, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 25-30 25mg Clomid, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 31-51 20mg Nolvadex, 750mg Tribestan

[GreekTank]

Originally posted by hitmansb
Let me add to that by stating that once PCT is complete, don't use any old tribulis to crank test production back up. Go with Tribestan; it costs more, but it's worth it. I allowed someone to talk me into trying a different brand after my latest bout of PCT...NEVER AGAIN!!! I ditched it after 10 days and bought some Tribestan, and felt fantastic 24 hours later. Here's how I usually like to do PCT:

Days 1-10 500iu HCG, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 11-17 100mg Clomid, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 18-24 50mg Clomid, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 25-30 25mg Clomid, 20mg Nolvadex
Days 31-51 20mg Nolvadex, 750mg Tribestan

This is a good PCT plan, Tribestan too eh? nice..