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Old 09-13-05, 11:40 PM
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2nd Cycle, help appreaciated

I'm a strength athlete 6'1" 25 years old 22% bf. I am involved in strongman and powerlifting and I have just recently finnished my first cycle. I am typically a hard gainer so i was after mass on my first cycle. I was happy with the results. I went from 215lbs-235lbs and strength gains were fair(I expected a little more) My cycle was wk 1-4 200mg test prop, week 1-8 400mg test e, week 7-12 500mg sust250/wk +250mg prop/wk + 20mg nolvadex ed, Week12-15 100mg clomid ed. I know the cycle might seem a little messed up but It was my first learning experience and at the first of the cycle I didnt realize what I could actually get my hands on. I experienced no side effects at all.
What I plan to do Is bulk up again for my next cycle which I hope to start in January...run 12 weeks. I need to be at my strongest through the summer (June-Oct for strongman) and also under 230lbs by july. I figure i can accomplish this by bulking in the winter and cutting the fat by july(230lbs @ 13-16%bf...does that sound realistic?). Although I am bulking I am more interested in Strength then size. This is what i was thinking about taking for my 2nd cycle:
Wk1-12 T400 600mg/wk
Wk1-12 Decabol 200 400mg/wk
Nolvadex only if I sense signs of Gyno(Ive heard you dont have to be on the whole cycle...True?)
WK 12-16 Clomid 100mg/ed

Then for the summer.....I'm not sure. 4 1/2 months seems like a long time to be on But I am considering if I get some good advice about better pct and stacking. I want a stack that I will see mainly strength gains and shed a little fat. Any Suggestions? (winny+test?)

I dont know if you need any more personal info to give sound advise but i train hard 4 days a week and eat well. 500g+ protien ed, tons of complex carbs and proper fats. When I am bulking I usually eat between 8000-10000 calories a day.

This might seem like a long post but I read in another post by a mod that said the more presonal info and cycle history I can give, the more informative answers I will recieve.

Thanks for your time
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Old 09-14-05, 12:08 AM
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List your diet in the nutrition section. I am curious to how you get 8000-10000 calories a day.
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Old 09-14-05, 12:48 AM
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holy shit 8000 cals a day? you must wake up and eat non stop untill you sleep. your second cycle would be fine although you need to reasearch PCT a lil better youll need to start PCT 3 weeks after last injection not the next day. good luck and ill be lookin in the nutrition section for your diet.
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Old 09-14-05, 08:47 AM
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thanks for the reply. as for my 4 1/2 month span through the summer. Is winny/test ent or t 400 a good idea. I am looking for maximum strength gains through this time and something that helped me shed a little fat wouldnt be a bad idea. any suggestions? Do I run a maintnence cyce for the full 4 1/2 months or do a normal cycle, just longer?
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8000-10000 calories a day is alot of food. you must be eating all day non stop.
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Old 09-14-05, 12:23 PM
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thanks for the reply. as for my 4 1/2 month span through the summer. Is winny/test ent or t 400 a good idea. I am looking for maximum strength gains through this time and something that helped me shed a little fat wouldnt be a bad idea. any suggestions? Do I run a maintnence cyce for the full 4 1/2 months or do a normal cycle, just longer?
i think 4.5 months is a lil long of a cycle for you at this time. you should realy research these drugs and questions your askin about. just about ever thing you can think of has a anwser here. that being said i like tren for weight loss other than that GH is the only thing that make me lose weight execpt for a good diet.
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