need some anti-e help

[capt251978]

ive got what i need to do my next cycle, except for some anti-estrogen, the guy i get my gear from is out of nolva and i dont know when he will get anymore. ( i am NOT asking for sources or anything) i was wondering what i could get that i would not need a prescipt for and how to use it. i have searched the forums and cant get a definetive answer... so please dont flame me too much. btw i am prone to gyno and that is my main concern.

[Shibby]

take a look at the superior-research banner up top.

[hitmansb]

Man, you are in luck....our board sponsor Superior Research has everything you need! If you know you are prone to gyno, it would be wise to run an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle...and have nolva on hand just in case and for PCT. LiquiDex and Tamox are the research chemicals you need. Post up what your cycle will look like, and it will be easier to tell you what dosage and frequency you'll need to run those products at.

[INTIMID8OR]

Originally Posted by hitmansb

Man, you are in luck....our board sponsor Superior Research has everything you need! If you know you are prone to gyno, it would be wise to run an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle...and have nolva on hand just in case and for PCT. LiquiDex and Tamox are the research chemicals you need. Post up what your cycle will look like, and it will be easier to tell you what dosage and frequency you'll need to run those products at.

exactly !!!! :dancingne

[Alin]

Originally Posted by capt251978

ive got what i need to do my next cycle, except for some anti-estrogen, the guy i get my gear from is out of nolva and i dont know when he will get anymore. ( i am NOT asking for sources or anything) i was wondering what i could get that i would not need a prescipt for and how to use it. i have searched the forums and cant get a definetive answer... so please dont flame me too much. btw i am prone to gyno and that is my main concern.

arimidex. letrozole or aromasin.

[capt251978]

my cycle looks like this........
week 1: 500 mg test enthantate
week 2: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust
week 3: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 deca
week 4: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 mg deca, 400 mg test 400
week 5: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 mg deca, 400 mg test 400
week 6: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 mg deca, 400 mg test 400
week 7: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 deca
week 8: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust
week 9: 500 mg test-e
week 10: 250 mg test-e

please fell free to critique this cycle, im open to varaitions on this. please give me some advise on how to use these over the counter anti estrogens with this as wel, thanks

[Shibby]

no need to do test e and sust, and T-400. IT'S ALL TEST. What's the point? No need to taper off test e either. How many "cycles" have you done before?

[JUICE]

just run the test e all the way brother.

check out the board sponsers like the guys say.

the whole pyramid thing is of old school philosophy... you can run the test e at equal doses all the way thru 10mg nolva ed and then pct 2 weeks after, just let us know though whats ure cycle history, cus this cycle seems really strange and we just wanna make sure ure doin things correctly
scrap it and lets start over

K

[JUICE]

Originally Posted by num1son

and we just wanna make sure ure doin things correctly
scrap it and lets start over

yup

firstly tell us what u have(gear wise) what your goals are... and I'm sure we can come up with something, but we need to get some sort of idea of your cycle history body type training regime etc... We wanna give good solid advice but we need good solid info

K

[capt251978]

well i have 4 10ml vials of test-e, 1 10ml vial deca, 1 10 ml vial test 400, and 1 10 ml vial of sust. i have done 3 previous "cycles" the first was about 3 years ago about 8 weeks of test-e and dianabol, about 2 years ago i did another test-e and d-bol cycle, and last year i had started a test 400, deca cycle with some d-bol mixed in but had to stop half way through due to a messy divorce. the first two cycles i had great success with, put on around 30 lbs of quality gains. today im at around 168lbs, dont know my bfp but its low. i would like to put on about 10 lbs or so. i work out after work in the evenings high weight low reps 4 days a week. would appreciate any and all advise you fellas are willing to give.... btw this is way off subject but Angelina Joilie
kissed me on the cheek one time.... just had to say that.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by capt251978

my cycle looks like this........
week 1: 500 mg test enthantate
week 2: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust
week 3: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 deca
week 4: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 mg deca, 400 mg test 400
week 5: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 mg deca, 400 mg test 400
week 6: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 mg deca, 400 mg test 400
week 7: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust, 200 deca
week 8: 500 mg test-e, 250 mg sust
week 9: 500 mg test-e
week 10: 250 mg test-e

please fell free to critique this cycle, im open to varaitions on this. please give me some advise on how to use these over the counter anti estrogens with this as wel, thanks

bro that cycle you laid out is garbage you have 1150mgs of test from week 4 -7. and you weigh 168lbs. my advise would be first goto the nutrition section learn what you can post up a diet let them fix it, then use test E 500mgs for 12 weeks. simple is almost always better.

Originally Posted by capt251978

well i have 4 10ml vials of test-e, 1 10ml vial deca, 1 10 ml vial test 400, and 1 10 ml vial of sust. i have done 3 previous "cycles" the first was about 3 years ago about 8 weeks of test-e and dianabol, about 2 years ago i did another test-e and d-bol cycle, and last year i had started a test 400, deca cycle with some d-bol mixed in but had to stop half way through due to a messy divorce. the first two cycles i had great success with, put on around 30 lbs of quality gains. today im at around 168lbs, dont know my bfp but its low. i would like to put on about 10 lbs or so. i work out after work in the evenings high weight low reps 4 days a week. would appreciate any and all advise you fellas are willing to give.... btw this is way off subject but Angelina Joilie
kissed me on the cheek one time.... just had to say that.

whats the mg/ml on each vial? and whatcha got as a concrete goal

K

cycles don't need to be all wierd looking and fancy lookin just basic and effective
with what you have I would do this
wk1-4 500mg sus the prop will jumpstart you
wk2.5-12 500mg test e good for bulking and you will already have the enanthate from the sus kickin so as one fades the other will be ready to roll
wk1-10 nandralone 400mg(try to get another bottle)

this way u will have prop as your jumpstart with a smooth transition to enanthate, the nandralone and enanthate will fade near the same time allowin you to run pct at wk 14
sound kool?

K

[Shibby]

Smooth transistion? He is going to be injecting 1g of test weeks 2-4 and then crash down to 500.

how do u figure the sus isnt all kickin at that week... the shorter esters will be faded while the longer are starting to kick in

K

the only high point is mid week 4 after that its all smooth sailing

K

this is the general composition of sus (as 30 mg propionate, 60 mg isocaproate, 60 mg as phenylpropionate, 100 mg decanoate)
as you can see lots of short ester. so right at wk 4 when he stops the addition of the 500mg to the already 160 will only be a temp peak of 660 mg, then down to 500 the next week, its the smoothest way to go, while gettin a kick start with what he has

K

I dont like sus in general, but I'm trying to use what he has, Ideally I would scrap the sus all toghether but I'm a big believer in cycle jumpstarts, for the mental effect. Once you feel "it" then its a lot easier to get the train in motion

K

[Shibby]

His blood levels are going to be all over the place until about week 6. If I was him, I'm sure he has some numb nut friends that he can sell it too and get more test e.

yah he should have enuf test E to pull it off I just like the jumpstarting effect, I hate sus, I ran it once and found it no advantage over anything else, I would say maybe run some tabs to jumpstart, but I hate those too... maybe my personal preference plays too much here,

K

[capt251978]

nice, thank you both. i like the idea of jump starting it w3ith sust, one more thing.. what do you guys think about the test 400? should i use it and if so when?

t400 hurts save it for next cycle.
Honestly u need to buy a few things to really get a cycle I would be comfortable with, but if thats all u got then run it

K