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12-01-05, 11:46 AM
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Deca/Dbol or Sust/Dbol
Alright i know going into this that you guys are going to say run test is a most....Just looking for some input. Im starting my second cycle dec 14th when i am done school and have a month and a half straight to hit the weights 2 times a day 4 days a week with 2 days of just cardio push ups pull ups. My diet is getting planned out now. I know numerous people that toke just deca/dbol cycle 400mgs deg and 30mgs dbol everyday. They blew up and kept about 80% of their gains. I also no people that toke a sust/dbol cycle hense the test that also blew up but did not keep much of their gains. Either way i know i need my anti e's and some clomid for pct. Im looking for a good beginners cycle that doesnt involve just a straight test cycle. This is my second cycle first one was a stupid cycle just to cut down water weight durring summer. I plan on doing my bulking cycle now and doing a anavar and some eq durring summer with the last 4 weeks adding winnie tabs into it.
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#2
12-01-05, 12:12 PM
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12-01-05, 02:05 PM
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i think maybe you should go over your lifestyle first before takin any chances with gear! you cant just work out for a month and a half. how old are you anyways?
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12-01-05, 03:42 PM
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first off its not a month an a half. its 2 years now brother and im 23 i love how you fucking think you know it alls critisize everyone and judge everyone but i dont see your fucking pics that prove you know what your doing. Everyone on this forum thinks they are fucking god well your not
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12-01-05, 03:59 PM
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What are you trying to prove by saying your 23? If you don't like it hear, no one is forcing you to stay. Now as far as your question goes, why do you not want to do a test only cycle? Are you wanting to take advantage of your time off, then go back to training naturally? Well with the Deca it will just start to kick in at the end of your time off. I don't think sust is the best choice at all. If you are trying to take advantage of the prop ester since you have a brief break, then you should just use a straight prop. If that dosn't matter then you should use a cyp/enan to keep your total injects down and is a better choice for a longer cycle.
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12-01-05, 04:55 PM
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Here is what I would do to gain max mass in 6 weeks. Now I have no idea what your cycle history is, so this is what I would do for me. Adjust the doses as you deem necessary.
Test Prop - 100mgs/ed Tren - 75mgs/ed DBol - 40-80mgs/day (spread out evenly throughout the day) That cycle, in 6 weeks, I would expect to gain about 20 lbs or so. If you've never juiced before, you will gain more, I would think about 25 or so (assuming you eat enough and hit the gym like a maniac). All that said, I would not recommend something like that for a first cycle; that's alot of gear to use for your first time, and more then almost anyone would need who does not already have alot of experience and muscle on them. Puma
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12-01-05, 05:47 PM
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12-01-05, 06:06 PM
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im sorry to all other members that read this as you all know i dont act like this but some reason this guy pushed my button. once again sorry for wasting your time with these posts.
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12-01-05, 06:31 PM
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Ha, good call Rocket. I did say no one is forcing you too be here, but I am thinking about forcing you too leave. We don't tolerate bullshit and shitheads hear.
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12-01-05, 06:38 PM
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"Working out is like building a house, everytime you do a half-ass workout, you're not laying a brick, someone else is." - Dorian Yates "Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor." - Alexis Carrel "Whenever you're not in the the gym training, someone else out there is, and when you meet them, they will beat you." - Victor Martinez
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12-01-05, 10:26 PM
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 . Rocket - I won't judge you bro - I had him pegged as a tool from the beginning  .
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12-02-05, 01:04 AM
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12-02-05, 11:52 PM
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Tough crowd!!! Jdoc if you have not been training hard and reached what you think is your natural limit you are waisting your time on gear. Especially if you are not going to be able to train hard when you get back to school. If that is the only three things you have access to. Then the dbol is about the only thing you are going to see any results from in that short of period, but you will lose most of it when you get off. I would not recommend you taking anything until you get more consistent with your training and diet, but if you are definitely going to take something out of those three I would say sust and dbol. Good luck, and I hope you decide to wait!
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12-02-05, 11:58 PM
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"When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours" - Stephen F. Roberts "Religion evolves more rapidly than evolution"
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12-03-05, 12:16 AM
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I just like to help everyone I can. Yeah he got busted but I would rather give him some decent advice than see him do something stupid. I imagine he was just trying to sound more respectable and that he new what he was doing so everyone would not make fun of him, it just backfired on him. I'm not saying that he did not deserve the harassment I just figured I would be the good guy.
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12-03-05, 11:37 AM
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Why do you think so many people are going to tell you that......(*Hint-Because it's good advice) Quote:
What do you have against it.....Let me guess, your friends have tried it without results? I'm not gonna be an ass, but plain and simple you have a lot more learning to do bro. I wouldn't touch AS until you learn a bit more. First and foremost you need to get your diet in check. After that....take our advice and run a test only cycle. IF you do it right and eat and train like you are suppose to, you will be very pleased with the results.
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Knowledge is power. Any and All things said by Lmg2701 are for role playing purposes only, nothing should be taken literally. Lmg2701 does not condone nor does he use any type of illegal substance/substances.
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