qv labs?

[bigfish]

This is my second cycle and I never really thought to ask for a particular brand. My First cycle was pet pharma, and even with not doing the cycle right I was very happy with my results. I got the stuff for my second cycle from someone different and it's QV labs. I ran a search this morning(after I got it like an ass) and getting more bad opinions than good on Qv. It's:
Test E 250 Lote No. QVE 031 and
Deca 300 Lote No. QVD3 026

From you guys who have used them what do you Think? And have any of you used these lote numbers before? What were your experiences?

I have no reservations at all of bringing it back, but I tore off the hologram on 1 of the test (I have to keep) and part of the hologram did stick to the box. Is there any other things I can look at this one I already open to make sure it's good.

Thanks and I apologize if this is in the wrong forum.

[rado]

Post pics if you can....QV is good gear no matter how many people will say otherwise...lol....

[Friggemall]

if I may hijack you thread for just a second bigfish,

Rado how the hell are you! Been a really long time. btw congrats on the gf pics I saw yesterday, you done good bro. Okay back to the future...

Bigfish, like rado said, qv is fine, even though some don't care for it. It did just fine for me back then. post the pic if you can, it's been too long since I've seen/had any qv but those up to date on them will know. friggen feds you coulda just checked the batch number before the bust and would be good to go.

[bigfish]

yeah I tried going to their site but it unavailable.

[rado]

Originally Posted by Friggemall

if I may hijack you thread for just a second bigfish,

Rado how the hell are you! Been a really long time. btw congrats on the gf pics I saw yesterday, you done good bro. Okay back to the future...

Bigfish, like rado said, qv is fine, even though some don't care for it. It did just fine for me back then. post the pic if you can, it's been too long since I've seen/had any qv but those up to date on them will know. friggen feds you coulda just checked the batch number before the bust and would be good to go.

lol....what's up bro, long time no see.....

Nice to see you around and thanks for the compliments on my princess

[rado]

Originally Posted by bigfish

yeah I tried going to their site but it unavailable.

lol...it will be that way for quite a while....

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by bigfish

This is my second cycle and I never really thought to ask for a particular brand. My First cycle was pet pharma, and even with not doing the cycle right I was very happy with my results. I got the stuff for my second cycle from someone different and it's QV labs. I ran a search this morning(after I got it like an ass) and getting more bad opinions than good on Qv. It's:
Test E 250 Lote No. QVE 031 and
Deca 300 Lote No. QVD3 026

From you guys who have used them what do you Think? And have any of you used these lote numbers before? What were your experiences?

I have no reservations at all of bringing it back, but I tore off the hologram on 1 of the test (I have to keep) and part of the hologram did stick to the box. Is there any other things I can look at this one I already open to make sure it's good.

Thanks and I apologize if this is in the wrong forum.

i personaly think QV sucks ass. i live close to mexico so id go over there and get what i wanted dirt cheep from a authroized(sp) QV dealer i might add. and it was always under filled 9 ccs instead of 10ccs and when i finaly gave the human stuff a try i was shocked at the difference.10 times better.
in the simplest way possable to tell you what i think i can get QV dirt cheep and chose not to for the more pricey stuff cuzz i belive its that much better.
..on that note i think RADO works for QV or has stock in the company...LOL :dancingne

[rado]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

i think RADO works for QV or has stock in the company...LOL :dancingne

If I had a nickle for everytime this statement here...:laughnew:

[vigil76]

On a sidenote:
I'm not sure if you read the newest writeups on "Operation Gear Grinder" run a google search you might be surprised-

However- you use to be able to go their site: http://qualityvet.mx.com
but since the bust they are down- on their site you could check the actual potentcy of the batch which was very helpful to give you more accurate intakes
You can peel off the hologram and see if the back of the sticker stays on the bottle... if you don't peel it off right you could pull the whole thing off-- also the flip off cap has to say QV on it or I would be suspicious.

As many will tellyou- only buy from a reputable source- someone you trust... I think this is the most important element.

As far as what gear is better--- it comes down to how much you want to spend vs what you want out of it- I think Human Grade gear is better than Vet grade- but it doesn't mean QV sucks- everyone has different experiences and biases

I have had many good gains with QV_ just run more of it-- it's cheap enough.
I personally like their 50ml bottles of Enan and Decca 200- very cost efficient.

Good luck-- I'd say try it for yourself- you be the judge-

[rado]

Originally Posted by vigil76

On a sidenote:
I'm not sure if you read the newest writeups on "Operation Gear Grinder" run a google search you might be surprised-

However- you use to be able to go their site: http://qualityvet.mx.com
but since the bust they are down- on their site you could check the actual potentcy of the batch which was very helpful to give you more accurate intakes
You can peel off the hologram and see if the back of the sticker stays on the bottle... if you don't peel it off right you could pull the whole thing off-- also the flip off cap has to say QV on it or I would be suspicious.

As many will tellyou- only buy from a reputable source- someone you trust... I think this is the most important element.

As far as what gear is better--- it comes down to how much you want to spend vs what you want out of it- I think Human Grade gear is better than Vet grade- but it doesn't mean QV sucks- everyone has different experiences and biases

I have had many good gains with QV_ just run more of it-- it's cheap enough.
I personally like their 50ml bottles of Enan and Decca 200- very cost efficient.

Good luck-- I'd say try it for yourself- you be the judge-

nice sig, wonder where you got that from

[vigil76]

especially after all the shit happening better safe than sorry!

[bigfish]

Thanks Vigil It passed both these tests. So if Iwas going to run 500 mg of test E and 300 mg of Deca for 12 weeks. What do you guys suggest I run since it's Qv, like 550 ans 350?

[Friggemall]

IMO bigfish since you don't know if it actually underdosed, I'd stick with your original plan. Then up it a little if need be. I'm one of those that believe you only need what you need to grow, but if you want to do and extra 1/8cc for margin of error then that's not much to worry about.

[vigil76]

Minimum:
Enan-500mg/wk
Dec- 300/wk

the small difference in potentcy won't be that noticeable- it's just nice to know where you're at- sometimes the batches were underdosed which would make one wonder exaclty how much you were actually putting in.

I would rather run a little higher than lower-- based off your first cycle what kind of gains did you get-- how long ago was your last cycle--- these are things to keep in perspective when doing your second cycle

However- I am concerned because I don't see any Nolva in your cycle- are you prone to gyno- I would keep it by my side really close incase you need it-- and also your HCG for PCT

what works for me may not work for you... most of the guys here will say I'm crazy for running what i do-- but hey- it works
i have blood work done every two months-- my significant other works in a lab making this a large novelty for me-- which gives me a good indication of any elevated liver enzymes or deficiencies.

Good luck!

[pockethercules]

I've seen the test E lot number it is good. There is nothing wrong with QV IMO. To me it is just as good as BD. I don't own stock in the company like Rado, but I have seen several people get great gains off of QV products.

[Pumpdogg]

QV blows... get off the cows/horse/pigs juice....

[rado]

Originally Posted by Pumpdogg

QV blows... get off the cows/horse/pigs juice....

Nice way to put it...lol...

[bigfish]

To answer the question about pct. I was going to follow this one I found in an older post.
These start 3 weeks after my last shot:
Clomid week1 and 2 100mg ed and week3 and 4 50 mg ed

Nolva week1 and 2 40mg ed and week 3 and 4 2o mg ed

And a tribulus product (testrol by G.A.T.)

1 week after my last shot I was going to get back on some creatine (cellmass)

Since I'm taking HCG at 250 IUs twice a week 3rd thru 12th week I don't know if I should take the clomid? I'm getting conflicting Thoughts on that.

From another post I know what to do If I see signs of gyno, but should I run some nolva to avoid it all together? If so how much and what week to start?

My cycle is going to be 12 weeks.

About the Qv. I was just worried that it wasn't real , but I don't really see the guy giving me some fake stuff.

My first cycle was very inconsistent. I wasn't even thinking about mgs only ccs. So i was taking like 250 mg of test (I don't even know what type it was) and 300 mgs of deca (1 cc each). Even with that I got huge and it was only like a 7 week cycle. I got up to 215 I gain like 15 pounds but I lost most of it because of poor pct (which is why most of my post are pct related). It was pet pharma. I will say this I took the first shot 7 p.m. at night and when I woke up the next day I felt totally different. Don't know if it was in my head but I definitely felt different.

So with 500 mg of test e for 12 weeks and i'm really Just doing the deca for my joints when I start throwing that heavy weight. I can only imagine how I'll look.

Right now i'm 5'11 193 around 13% body fat.
Thanks anybody who takes time to answer my questions

[Control]

The best options are brew your own gear or find a good UG lab.

[Friggemall]

Okay, you've got qv and it passed the tests, so more than likely it's good and pocket said he's seen the lot # of the test & it's good. I think you're safe. Stick with your 500mg/week of test & 300mg/week of deca. You are also fine on your hcg and I aplaud you for running it during your cycle instead of following it BEFORE pct not WITH pct. Your hcg in the cycle is not a factor with the clomid because your clomid is used only in pct. Your good. there are several schools of thought on running nolva during. If you choose to run it 10mg/ed or 20/eod. Or not run it and see if you get gyno symptoms, then 60mg day 1 then 40mg until symptoms are gone. Now if you don't run it during, then you might (okay probably is more like it ) experience some added bloat/water weight.a.k.a. Moon face, Good or bad? depends on how you think. Some feel the added water and estrogen will help you make better gains, those muscles do need the water to grow. Me well I'd add .5mg/ed ldex and keep the nolva on hand just in case.

test E 500mg/week 1-12
Deca 300mg/week 1-10
ldex .5mg/day 1-15 (some will run it all the way through pct too, not me though)
hcg 250ui 2x a week back to back days weeks 3-14
clomid starting week 16, 300mg day 1, 100mg day 2-11, 50mg day 11-21
nolva starting week 16 40mg week 16, 30mg week 17, 20mg week 18, 10mg week 19

just my .02

[bigfish]

Hey thanks alot Friggemall. I really appreciate your help. Just one last question I decided I'm going to run the nolva throughout, but do I start it the same time as i start my cycle or should I wait like three weeks then start.

[bigfish]

Thanks Friggemall I really appreciate your help. I decided I'm going to run Nolva during cycle but should I start day one or later on like 3 weeks into my cycle.

[bigfish]

And does dosages for nolva in the pct are a day right? like week the first week would be 40 mg ed?

[Friggemall]

Originally Posted by bigfish

And does dosages for nolva in the pct are a day right? like week the first week would be 40 mg ed?

Sorry, yes ed on the nolva. And for the first question, start the cycle & nolva at the same time.

[Friggemall]

I just remembered something about the cycle you are planning and went to look for it. Once I found it, I came back and tried to locate it here also and don't immediatly see it. This is a small part of an great write-up by skyefire for newbie cycles. Don't et the "newbie" term fool you. This is a great "bread & butter" bulker as he calls it & for anyone. Unless you are competing More is not necessarily better and all too often it takes a long time for many to figure out we don't need a lot of the stuff we put our bodies through, but that's another story

Originally Posted by Skyefire

Some standard “Bread and Butter Cycles”:
Bulker:
500mg of Testosterone Cypionate (divide into two shots a week) a week for 14 weeks
400mg of Nandrolone Decanoate (one or two shots a week) a week for 13 weeks.
250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 1 to 4, then 3 times a week for weeks 5 to 15
10mg Tamoxifen Citrate every day weeks 1 to 15. That is 2 5,000iu amps
Start PCT week 16 with 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate every day for two weeks then 20mg every day for another 2 week.

this is very good info just adjust the times to the 12 week syou want to do in the cycle.