Im brand new and have a cycle question

[CactusJuice]

Hey thanks to everyone in advance for all your help. This is what I have been looking for. Here is my question.

First of all this isnt a question but just so you know im 5'9 200 lbs already pretty built.

Ok I have a 10ml bottle of deca 300, 10 ml bottle of EQ 200 and 10 ml bottle of Sustanon 260, not 250 but 260.

Is there anyway to make a decent cycle out of these? Assuming I use the appropriate diet which is a discussion shortly to follow..lol..What do you guys think? Could I make something decent out of this?

If you first question is why did I by these if I didnt know its because my best freind gave them to me for Christmas..

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by CactusJuice

Hey thanks to everyone in advance for all your help. This is what I have been looking for. Here is my question.

First of all this isnt a question but just so you know im 5'9 200 lbs already pretty built.

Ok I have a 10ml bottle of deca 300, 10 ml bottle of EQ 200 and 10 ml bottle of Sustanon 260, not 250 but 260.

Is there anyway to make a decent cycle out of these? Assuming I use the appropriate diet which is a discussion shortly to follow..lol..What do you guys think? Could I make something decent out of this?

If you first question is why did I by these if I didnt know its because my best freind gave them to me for Christmas..

thats a good friend.lol im guessin this is your first cycle? if so id go with just test at 400-500mgs a week for 10-12 weeks i like 12 weeks better but thats just me. if you had another bottle of sust we could make something work but i dont know if you would like the EOD injections.

[CactusJuice]

yes he is a good freind...lol...not many people out there give out gear like that I hear. I guess I could get another bottle of sustanon that would be pretty easy given my source is my best freind!..lol...

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by CactusJuice

yes he is a good freind...lol...not many people out there give out gear like that I hear. I guess I could get another bottle of sustanon that would be pretty easy given my source is my best freind!..lol...

test E or C would be eayser to use if you could trade him. less injections is always a plus.

[CactusJuice]

So with Sustanon basically your saying If I went with 500 mg a week Ide have to inject it twice a week versus only injectiing Cyp or Eth once a week? But still doing the same dosage of 400-500 mg a week of C or E?

[CactusJuice]

Ok but Deca im told to use 300mg a week for 10 weeks and EP I should add towrads the end of the cycle..I do have clomid as well to get things working again once im done.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by CactusJuice

Ok but Deca im told to use 300mg a week for 10 weeks and EP I should add towrads the end of the cycle..I do have clomid as well to get things working again once im done.

who ever is givin you this advise is not right. first EQ takes me 7-8 weeks before it starts to work. alot of people say 6 but im a slow responder. skyfire has a post about how long it takes to build up witch explains why. this is also your first cycle so keep it simple and use 1 thing witch for me would be test.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by CactusJuice

So with Sustanon basically your saying If I went with 500 mg a week Ide have to inject it twice a week versus only injectiing Cyp or Eth once a week? But still doing the same dosage of 400-500 mg a week of C or E?

actully if you injected sust 2 times a week you would gain, but only cuzz its your first cycle. sust should be at least EOD injections to take full advantage of the fast acting esters.

[GearTripper]

(assuming this is your first) very simply... you DO NOT have enough simple test base to do a decent 1st cycle. you should stick with 1 compound for your first cycle, if not first couple of cycles so that you can monitor how your body reacts to the compound. i would also suggest keeping you test at or below 300mg/wk for the first go round.

[CactusJuice]

Ok so how do I implemenet EQ itno the equastion?

[big jimbo]

Although im new at this, ive known people with a lot of experience taking these steroids. I've heard that using sust or test e and stacking it with deca 300 is a good stack. Since you prob wanna limit the amount of shots you have to take per week, you can cocktail the deca and sust which ive done and it works. taking 2 shots a week in your case 520 MG of sust and around 400 MG of deca wil be enough.

[TripleXx]

I agree with everyone else with just taking the simple test e. I did a test e and dbol first cycle. It worked great and i could had actually left the dbol out. But since your friend has not informed you enough before providing you with your gear you are also going to need more stuff. You need to worry about what you are going to take for pct and also you may be prone to gyno so it is best to keep around some nolva,clomid, liquidex....etc

[Skyefire]

http://www.chemicalfitness.com/forum...ead.php?t=3574

go read that, it will cover all your questions (most of them at any rate)

if you wanted a short test cycle you would need at least one more bottle of test, if you want test/deca cycle you would need at least 2 more bottles of the test (pref 3) and one more of the deca. (deca should be ran for no less then 12 weeks pref 14 to 16 weeks, same with EQ as both take about 6 weeks out of your cycle to "kick in")

[Skyefire]

Originally Posted by CactusJuice

Ok so how do I implemenet EQ itno the equastion?

EQ is a fairly weak steriod, even with a first cycle I would run no less then 400mg pref 600mg (If that sounds like a lot remember that EQ is only about 45% as strong as test). it also takes about 6 weeks to kick in. so 16 week cycles are are req and a little long for a first cycle. you can front load and run it for twelve. but that is several more bottles and I don't think that its your best option. I would use the deca and test if you want a bread and butter cycle. for a first cycle 300mg of deca a week will work. again you can front load the deca and keep the cycle shorter. Then again you can run a cc of the sust EOD for the first week then 1/2 cc of the sust EOD and call it good til the pct. a test only will work too and if cost is a consideration.

for more info on the EQ, long esters and such go here On using long esters.