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Old 01-25-06, 12:51 PM
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Turinabol: relatively unknown

All I ever find on this drug is the same profile that doesn't offer enough information:

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OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milligram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Testosterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concentration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

0.4 x pound (body weight) x days = number of tablets to take overall during the interval of intake
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An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy looking muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposition, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dosages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is 17-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.
Most say it doesn't aromatize at all because of the chloro group, some say it does to a small extent. No one in the dozens of TBOL threads I've read ever bothers to mention effects on the hairline or the use of PCT afterwards.

1-I'm very sensitive to gyno. Should I use any anti-E's?
2-Does Tbol convert via the 5ar enzyme or have any adverse effects on the hairline?
3-Should I implement PCT?
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Old 01-25-06, 12:53 PM
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I like Oral T-bol! PCT is necessary. I would always watch the hairline too, but anti e-s are not useful. I will post more info on it if I can.
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Best oral out there as far as I am concerned. I didn't lose any hair, awesome pumps, no bloat, no gyno and cheap. I ran it like 6 weeks at about 30mg a week.
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I've been taking Turinabol for a little over 3 weeks now at 40mg/day to kick off my winter bulker...and I love it so far. I'm up 12lbs, holding much less water and without the blood pressure issues I tend to experience when I use 20mg/day of dbol. I doubt I'll use dbol again as long as Turinabol is available.
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Gaspari made a product called Halodrol, which is said to be essentially oral turinabol.
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If turnabol is a methyl test..... Would it be stacked with test....
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If turnabol is a methyl test..... Would it be stacked with test....
I wouldn't just because the whole reason I take it is to get no bloat. but it can be added to any cycle and be great.
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oral TBOL is great...DBOL without the bloat
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My experiences with T-Bol have been nothing short of positive. The gains are more steady than with dbol, and I dont get the insane lower back pumps that can be almost crippling at times that i get with dbol.

This is Probably my #3 favorite compound behind test e and deca.
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glad to hear more positive reviews. Any critiques and advice on the cycle itself would be appreciated.

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pct: 40/20/20mg nolva (that overkill?)

very simple, trying to see if tbol delivers and still in the late stages of recovery from gyno surgery.
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Looks good....would look better if you added prop at 100mg EOD along with arimidex at .5mg ED, but still...looks good.
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I've been taking Turinabol for a little over 3 weeks now at 40mg/day to kick off my winter bulker...and I love it so far. I'm up 12lbs, holding much less water and without the blood pressure issues I tend to experience when I use 20mg/day of dbol. I doubt I'll use dbol again as long as Turinabol is available.
I forgot your previous post. You're making those gains on tbol and 100mg prop eod, right? What are your stats if you don't mind me asking.
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Old 02-07-06, 08:55 PM
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I forgot your previous post. You're making those gains on tbol and 100mg prop eod, right? What are your stats if you don't mind me asking.
Actually, I'm taking the tbol with test cyp and EQ...but a lot of that gain was from tbol, because the cyp and eq take some time to kick in. Stats...I started at 240lbs, got up to 252. Been training since I was 16...I'm 31 now. I don't have my exact cycle history to give you, but it's basically one cycle (10 weeks or less) per year from age 20 to 28, then two cycles per year since.
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