An explantion of what Epistane really is.

[Deacon]

Finally an explanation on Epistane!!

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since many of us were wondering what it really is and why it works so well I decided to paraphrase the article and post it up

from MD mag written by Bill Llewellyn;

Sold as Epistane or Havoc

Similiar to the steroid thioderon or mepitiostane which is found to be mg for mg as anabolic as methyltestosterone - offers both anabolic steroid activity and distinct anti-estrogenic properties - in this form similiar to proviron or DHT

however this new drug Epistane is actually methylepitiostane developed in Western labs in the 1960's it is;
a methylated version of mepitiostane modified to increase oral absorption

mythylation makes this drug 11 times more anabolic than mythyltestosterone on a mg to mg basis
it is 12 times more anabolic than it is androgenic - making it more mild for use than d-bol or halo - it will compare to var or winnie in most users
it also carries anti - estrogenic effects and so may cause lethargy in some users

cycles; a full 6 week cycle should produce solid gains in strength and lean muscle mass similiar to var or winnie
running short cycles such as 6 weeks on followed by 2 weeks off should keeo the user from any possible side effects as this drug is still classified as a steroid and should be treated as such.


As I said this is a paraphrased version of the whole article which can be found in MD mag or at their web site - but it does I think - explain why Epi works so damn well - at least it did for me

[Alin]

Originally Posted by Deacon

Finally an explanation on Epistane!!

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since many of us were wondering what it really is and why it works so well I decided to paraphrase the article and post it up

from MD mag written by Bill Llewellyn;

Sold as Epistane or Havoc

Similiar to the steroid thioderon or mepitiostane which is found to be mg for mg as anabolic as methyltestosterone - offers both anabolic steroid activity and distinct anti-estrogenic properties - in this form similiar to proviron or DHT

however this new drug Epistane is actually methylepitiostane developed in Western labs in the 1960's it is;
a methylated version of mepitiostane modified to increase oral absorption

mythylation makes this drug 11 times more anabolic than mythyltestosterone on a mg to mg basis
it is 12 times more anabolic than it is androgenic - making it more mild for use than d-bol or halo - it will compare to var or winnie in most users
it also carries anti - estrogenic effects and so may cause lethargy in some users

cycles; a full 6 week cycle should produce solid gains in strength and lean muscle mass similiar to var or winnie
running short cycles such as 6 weeks on followed by 2 weeks off should keeo the user from any possible side effects as this drug is still classified as a steroid and should be treated as such.


As I said this is a paraphrased version of the whole article which can be found in MD mag or at their web site - but it does I think - explain why Epi works so damn well - at least it did for me

I'd love to see more information on this compound.

[Deacon]

this has been the latest and best I have found outside of what is on IBE's website

hopefully there will be more

[THE BOUNCER]

dosent sound to much different then winstrol in terms of the final product and the results you get from it.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

dosent sound to much different then winstrol in terms of the final product and the results you get from it.

its like winny with anti-e benefits! if it wasnt 17aa i might give it a try. but it is, ill stick to proviron.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

its like winny with anti-e benefits! if it wasnt 17aa i might give it a try. but it is, ill stick to proviron.

winny has its own anti-e benefits, never got gyno while running winny with test. i assume its from its DHT properties.

P.S. If the epistane wasn't a 17-aa, it would probably be a worthless compound.

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

winny has its own anti-e benefits, never got gyno while running winny with test. i assume its from its DHT properties.

P.S. If the epistane wasn't a 17-aa, it would probably be a worthless compound.

not totally worlthless but much less effective - the 17-aa branch makes it easily absorbed orally so you get the most bang for your buck

they compare it to winnie and provi and while they hint it may cause more positive anti - e effects they really dont go into depth about that - so until we gat some more of that type of info the only advantages I see to Epi over provi would be that it is cheaper and currently legal
I truely think it is a good off cycle drug especially combined with MGF and IGF-1 or by itself

[Alin]

Originally Posted by Deacon

not totally worlthless but much less effective - the 17-aa branch makes it easily absorbed orally so you get the most bang for your buck

they compare it to winnie and provi and while they hint it may cause more positive anti - e effects they really dont go into depth about that - so until we gat some more of that type of info the only advantages I see to Epi over provi would be that it is cheaper and currently legal
I truely think it is a good off cycle drug especially combined with MGF and IGF-1 or by itself

does it still have an effect on natural HPTA?

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by Alin

does it still have an effect on natural HPTA?

all anabolic and androgenic(sp?) steroids will shut you down if takin in high enough doses to gain muscle mass.

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

all anabolic and androgenic(sp?) steroids will shut you down if takin in high enough doses to gain muscle mass.

true - however not in this case it seems - since it works as its own anti -e
I think we really need some more testing or explanations on how this drug really works and what it does - there seems to be a contradiction of its action

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

all anabolic and androgenic(sp?) steroids will shut you down if takin in high enough doses to gain muscle mass.

not to be a smart ass bro - but your statement would be more true if you used suppressed instead of shut down - all users of steroids are suppressed to some degree - actual true shutdown usually requires very long cycles or drastic doses - the typical user will always face suppression but may never be truely shut down - are you with me on that?