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Old 05-09-07, 07:37 PM
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Hello ladies and gents. I know this topic has been discused in the past but I was hoping to see if some of you people who have used GH could chime in and add your 2 cents. I am considering using GH for the first time and am concerned about it harming my natural levels when I quit. Have any of you who have used and stopped in the past noticed anything different or got your levels checked after not taking gh for some time to see if the natural levels are back to normal?
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Old 05-09-07, 08:40 PM
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Never felt any huge change on or off as far as a negative effect once I got off except for of course not having the benefits that you get from the GH.
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Old 05-09-07, 09:20 PM
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Good to know, thanks bro. Anyone else? Has anyone had there levels checked before and after ?
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never had my levels checked! didnt even know you could. i belive it will not mess with your natural production after your cycle.
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Old 05-11-07, 04:44 PM
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I just figure everything has to effect your natural levels. Just like taking aas, your natural test levels will never be the same. I just figure hgh would do the same... Anyone else? I know alot of you use gh
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Bottom line. Don't expect much. GH should just be used for that "finishing touch" on stage. Like I said before, AAS will give you far greater and faster results weather bulking or cutting is your goal. They will do so with a much smaller price then GH.
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Lets also remember bro that Arnold and all the great bodybuilder's of his time didn't use Gh. AAS and training raise GH levels a great deal by themselves. No need for it bro.
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AS is definitely quicker.....For best results with GH you're looking at taking it over a long period of time and taking it alone the best benefit is fat loss IMO. Now when you start throwing in AS, Slin, etc, you will get different benefits, not suggesting this, just stating my opinions.
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For best results with GH you're looking at taking it over a long period of time and taking it alone the best benefit is fat loss IMO.
Agreed. The other benefit to GH is that it helps with muscle maturity. Taken in conjuction with AAS, the muscle development is much faster than training naturally. You can usually tell the people on stage who have or have not used GH. Their muscles are fuller and rounder.

We all produce GH. As we age, our bodies simply produce less. That's why BBers take it, and why others take it for the health benefits.. (reversing the aging process, etc)

As for the levels you are referring to, I'm not really sure what you mean. Liver testing, thryoid, what? Gh won't change any "levels" in the body because the body already produces it. Think of your body and how resilient you were at 16...Say you take it at 30, and those are the intended effects. Now, when taking AAS or T3, you liver enzymes can change because AAS is hard on the liver; depending on what you take. And T3 can change your thyroid levels afterwards. While you are taking T3, you thyroid is hyperactive. Once you stop, there is a period it is hypoactive.
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Old 05-12-07, 01:53 PM
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As for the levels you are referring to, I'm not really sure what you mean. Liver testing, thryoid, what?

I am wondering if after you discontinue the use of HGH will your natural levels of HGH be the same they were before you started taking it or will your natural levels of HGH be suppresed?
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As for the levels you are referring to, I'm not really sure what you mean. Liver testing, thryoid, what?

I am wondering if after you discontinue the use of HGH will your natural levels of HGH be the same they were before you started taking it or will your natural levels of HGH be suppresed?
People sometimes have their liver enzymes checked, thyroid levels; basically a whole panel of test to see how well their organs are functioning post AAS.

In reference to your question, GH levels are suppressed for a very short time post GH, until your body begins producing at the normal level it was pre GH.
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In reference to your question, GH levels are suppressed for a very short time post GH, until your body begins producing at the normal level it was pre GH.[/quote]


Do you know of any research that backs this up?
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obviously there is no research to back up super-physiological dosages that bodybuilders may take, but the studies done with GH used for dwarfs and other similar conditions concluded that normal GH productions resumes in a few days, search it here it was discussed...
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Hello ladies and gents. I know this topic has been discused in the past but I was hoping to see if some of you people who have used GH could chime in and add your 2 cents. I am considering using GH for the first time and am concerned about it harming my natural levels when I quit. Have any of you who have used and stopped in the past noticed anything different or got your levels checked after not taking gh for some time to see if the natural levels are back to normal?


from my understanding after about age 25 natural HGH secretion in minimal naturally. it declines as we age.
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from my understanding after about age 25 natural HGH secretion in minimal naturally. it declines as we age.
but what we need to take into consideration is what AAS and training effects on GH are. steroids and training raises natural GH a great deal. i don think anyone that uses steroids and workouts really needs GH to be honest.
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but what we need to take into consideration is what AAS and training effects on GH are. steroids and training raises natural GH a great deal. i don think anyone that uses steroids and workouts really needs GH to be honest.
then why do you take it? you never said if you compete? you never even gave stats before witch is fine but just curious why you would take it. i take it cuzz im a old bastard just turned 39
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Old 05-21-07, 07:34 PM
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I really want to take it for the fat loss
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Well, first you should know that in order for you to get the fat burning effects of GH, you need to take it for at least 6 months. Now for men, you're looking at about 3-4 IUS/day. Which means 1 box could last you about 4 weeks. So, at about $400 a box (conservatively) that's about $2400 for 6 months.

What I'm saying is, what about making changes to your diet and going with your own ECA stack? GH is good, but that's an awful expensive fat burner.

The other thing you could consider is T3. BUT- that WILL screw with your levels for awhile after you stop taking it. And there is no rhyme or reason to it. Everyone's diffferent, and everyone's body reacts differently to it. But it does supress your natural thyroid action post cycle
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