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Old 09-01-03, 01:58 PM
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Tren only cycle

How are Tren only cycles? I'm just looking to keep my current muscle mass while i'm losing fat, so i dont think i need to stack things. Is tren the best for this situation, considering price and other factors?

I'm thinking of running it at 75mg/eod for 12 weeks. What do you think?
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Old 09-01-03, 02:45 PM
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Well besides having you libido and natural test production shut down, its a good cycle. That being said, I would add 250mg at least a week of some form of test to counteract these sides.
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Old 09-01-03, 02:51 PM
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You will be completlly shut down. I think having no sex drive will take a bigger toll on you than you think. Just add a very minimal amount of test. like 250mg just to keep you somewhat in gear.
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Old 09-01-03, 03:59 PM
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Thanks for you input. When would you start Post cycle recovery?
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Old 09-01-03, 04:02 PM
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Then again, I know some people on the boards get an increase in libito with fina. I think it was DRveejay11 and fatchops that mentioned this over at Steroidology.
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why not throw 100mg of prop in EOD, or every other shot
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Old 09-01-03, 04:08 PM
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I always hear about the shutdown, but is this hearsay or from experience.

i m waitin on my test and started the fina last week and if the wind blows my way i get wood....granted, this is only after one week.

Anyone done a full cycle fina only?

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Old 09-01-03, 04:12 PM
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I always hear about the shutdown, but is this hearsay or from experience.

i m waitin on my test and started the fina last week and if the wind blows my way i get wood....granted, this is only after one week.

Anyone done a full cycle fina only?

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lol, i hope you don't live in Chi-town
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I always hear about the shutdown, but is this hearsay or from experience.

i m waitin on my test and started the fina last week and if the wind blows my way i get wood....granted, this is only after one week.

Anyone done a full cycle fina only?

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lol. its only been a week. after about 4 weeks, ask yourself again. hopefully you wont need that test
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Old 09-01-03, 04:26 PM
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I did 75mg of tren only for 6 weeks this spring.Was aware of the effects but as I had never done the drug before,I wanted to judge the effects on it's own.

There was a suppression of libido but no "Shutdown".No sleep loss and the "finacough" and hotflashes were just in the 1/2 hour following injection.Mild irritablity but nothing major.

A great drug but I'll not do it by it's lonesome again.

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Old 09-01-03, 04:31 PM
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I did 75mg of tren only for 6 weeks this spring.Was aware of the effects but as I had never done the drug before,I wanted to judge the effects on it's own.

There was a suppression of libido but no "Shutdown".No sleep loss and the "finacough" and hotflashes were just in the 1/2 hour following injection.Mild irritablity but nothing major.

A great drug but I'll not do it by it's lonesome again.

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Why not? Because of the libido issue?
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Old 09-01-03, 04:54 PM
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obviously after a week one would not shut down but im surprised its shot my libido up like it has...the way people talk...fina is the ANTI VIAGRA.

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Well besides having you libido and natural test production shut down, its a good cycle. That being said, I would add 250mg at least a week of some form of test to counteract these sides.
agreed...250mg is the bare minimum, just to keep things in some what working order
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Old 09-01-03, 06:00 PM
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If i run tren at 100mg EOD, should i worry about progestin sides?

I planned on just getting Clomid and Tren
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at 100mg EOD, prog related sides are unlikely. not impossible, but unlikely
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Old 09-01-03, 06:30 PM
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Sweet, i'm trying to make this a cheap yet very effective cycle. The whole thing is costing less than $100
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Sweet, i'm trying to make this a cheap yet very effective cycle. The whole thing is costing less than $100
in that case, grab a bottle of 250mg enan. use once every 10 days.
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Old 09-01-03, 06:38 PM
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grab some nolva too, if your worried about progesterone, as progesterone doesnt cause gyno directly, progesterone greatly increases igf-1 which causes gyno. Easiest way to reduce IGF-1 is to use novadex.
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Then again, I know some people on the boards get an increase in libito with fina. I think it was DRveejay11 and fatchops that mentioned this over at Steroidology.
DAMN.....good memory bro!!!!

Yup---I'm one of the ones that are wired ass-backwards!!!! I get horny as hell on Fina (solo)
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Old 09-01-03, 08:31 PM
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grab some nolva too, if your worried about progesterone, as progesterone doesnt cause gyno directly, progesterone greatly increases igf-1 which causes gyno. Easiest way to reduce IGF-1 is to use novadex.

O/T: I've been reading post about the LR IGF-1, why would someone take it if it causes gyno? I'm getting mixed up here.... Doesn't it aid in fat loss?

I havent run nolva yet, what is it typically run at?
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Why not? Because of the libido issue?
Yes,that would be the main issue.

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yeah, when should he start to use anti-estros in his cycle? i would also like to know for myself once i start.
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Old 09-02-03, 04:54 PM
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From what i've read, tren does turn to aromatize. Therefore, no anti-e is needed....
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Ive done a tren only cycle... i madedecent gains..but the crash was so hard that it wasnt worth it...along with the side effects *shudder* I only run ti with soem test now
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Funny, I was thinkin' of runnin' tren alone before my show, but my show's in less than 4 weeks..
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Usual recommendation is 20 mg/day
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