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Old 10-24-07, 07:45 AM
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Cycle Stacking, any Ideas?

Hey all I would like to have your advice about my next cycle, tough im having a 3 months rest now.
but still, I wanna be sure about the next.

Last cycle:

1-12 Test Cyp
1-8 Dianabol

I was thinking about the next cycle

8 weeks. because my hair is a bit sensitive to the DHT conversion.

This time , i'll have Saw Palametto.


1-8 Test E
1-8 Dianabol
1-8 Deca or Boldenone


or

1-8 Test E
1-8 Deca
1-8 Boldenone

let me know what u think.

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Hey bro,

First thing, 8 weeks of a 17-aa drug such as dbol is to long. Puts a lot of strain on your liver. I would run it 4-5 weeks max. The point of running orals is because they act quick in terms of size and strength. it takes the test about 3 weeks to kick in. so you run the orals to give you that extra "kick" from the dbol and then when the test is kicking in you come off the dbol. you shouldn't run the dbol along with the test the whole time.

also, test should be ran from 10-12 weeks instead of 8. it dosent really kick in until week 3 so a total of 8 weeks in not necessarily long enough. you would see more results from running it a little longer. i have a feeling that your hair problem is because of the test and dbol combined. if you cut back on the dbol i dont think you will have a problem. if however, you are prone to hair loss, you are going to lose it no matter what.

what are the doses you are running these cycles at bro?
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First thing, 8 weeks of a 17-aa drug such as dbol is to long. Puts a lot of strain on your liver

You know this has been debated over and over right? Not completely true bro...Not trying to be an ass Just stating over the years what's been posted on the boards(and I remember seeing some good articles too)that 17-aa is not all that bad.

But then again, it really depends on the person.

But I agree with the rest
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You know this has been debated over and over right? Not completely true bro...Not trying to be an ass Just stating over the years what's been posted on the boards(and I remember seeing some good articles too)that 17-aa is not all that bad.

But then again, it really depends on the person.

But I agree with the rest
yes, and it can also be debated that excess alcohol use is bad. you know there have been studies done and some peoples liver is not effected by excess alcohol while other die from liver failure. your statement is dangerous because new people can take it and run with it.
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last cycle:

400 mgs of Cyp/week

Dbol was Diamond Pattern.

2-3-4-5-5-4-3-2

50 mg Tops of Dbol.

So if I'll have Dbol 1-5 ? i'll start with 30 mg/week?

or u think I shouldnt have the Dbol at all right now?
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yes, and it can also be debated that excess alcohol use is bad. you know there have been studies done and some peoples liver is not effected by excess alcohol while other die from liver failure. your statement is dangerous because new people can take it and run with it.
I don't think they would do that...But you're right about studies on alcohol...I guess for anyone to start AS, keep it simple with TEST...This has always been said...I bet most people do not need anything more than test.

We all add other shit to it for cutting purposes...When it really falls back on our diet/training/rest...You and I know you CAN get great results from TEST only...What we tend to do is fuck our bodies up and add all kind of shit...For what? To get bigger

When indeed we can accomplish that from 1 compound; except for those who compete.
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you may want to totally avoid the dbol next cycle just to see if the test alone has an effect on your hair.
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last cycle:

400 mgs of Cyp/week

Dbol was Diamond Pattern.

2-3-4-5-5-4-3-2

50 mg Tops of Dbol.

So if I'll have Dbol 1-5 ? i'll start with 30 mg/week?

or u think I shouldnt have the Dbol at all right now?
I think test is fine...But if you insist with the oral...you can make nice gains from just 25mgs and run it longer...rather than a higher dose...I'm a firm believer in slow steady gains(which is lower dose longer time)than faster gains and shorter time...this way you can have a better chance of retaining your gains...hope it's not all fat.

I think this is why I've been able to come off after a 6 month cycle and still weigh 201lbs and not cary much fat....My strength hasn't gone down much...Every cycle I've ever done, it's been a slow steady gain.
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I don't think they would do that...But you're right about studies on alcohol...I guess for anyone to start AS, keep it simple with TEST...This has always been said...I bet most people do not need anything more than test.

We all add other shit to it for cutting purposes...When it really falls back on our diet/training/rest...You and I know you CAN get great results from TEST only...What we tend to do is fuck our bodies up and add all kind of shit...For what? To get bigger

When indeed we can accomplish that from 1 compound; except for those who compete.
I would agree with the point of your post. Basics. I think a simple stack of dbol and test, or deca etc can still qualify as basic. I would agree though that to many people stack way to many things and find out they don't know what did work and what didn't or what gave them a certain side effect etc.
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Alrighty then, so were getting somewhere

1-10 Test E
1-10 Deca/Boldenone/Tren A ?

1-10 Test E
1-10 Deca
1-10 Tren A ?/ Boldenone?

haha it's so tempting I wanna do all together . lol

kidding


Anyway, I like the Dbol alot, i dont want to avoid it, but this time i'll do it just to see what causes me losing hair.

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I would agree with the point of your post. Basics. I think a simple stack of dbol and test, or deca etc can still qualify as basic. I would agree though that to many people stack way to many things and find out they don't know what did work and what didn't or what gave them a certain side effect etc.
True...It's called GREED.

Everyone always wants to be bigger...Never happy with the results they get; always want more.

Sort of like those who do rec drugs; always want another line, pill, shot, etc...

And most do not get blood work done!!! How fucking stupid is that?! lol

We've seen good guys die from these boards over the years because they take the superficial part of their body, yet pay no attention the the inside mechanism.
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Alrighty then, so were getting somewhere

1-10 Test E
1-10 Deca/Boldenone/Tren A ?

1-10 Test E
1-10 Deca
1-10 Tren A ?/ Boldenone?

haha it's so tempting I wanna do all together lol

kidding

Not to be an ass here and you can take this post how you like; really.

Test/Deca=You'll look like a bloated fish...You'll get really HBP, maybe some acne, hairline, etc...

Test/Deca/Tren...oh boy...you need to look this one up yourself.

I'd say Test by itself..
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the problem with a deca/cycle is, there can be many sides. gyno coming from 2 angles, estrogen and progesterone.

i would run a test/tren cycle. leave out the dbol and deca. run that and see how you like it. its all about finding out how your body reacts to different compounds.
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i would run a test/tren cycle..

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I ran this for 6 months and loved it.
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6 months is to long. lol.
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Just know your limits kid...Otherwise you will hurt yourself in the long run.
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6 months is to long. lol.
For me it was fine STFU

But I don't advise anyone to do this...HEY! I had blood work done every 6 months and I was fine; so there
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the problem with a deca/cycle is, there can be many sides. gyno coming from 2 angles, estrogen and progesterone.

i would run a test/tren cycle. leave out the dbol and deca. run that and see how you like it. its all about finding out how your body reacts to different compounds.

ok
Dbol and Deca are out now.


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what if I add boldenone?
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For me it was fine STFU

But I don't advise anyone to do this...HEY! I had blood work done every 6 months and I was fine; so there

lol, I wanna know how much u gained from that one
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ok
Dbol and Deca are out now.


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what if I add boldenone?
Why do you insist on more compounds? Do you think more is better? It really isn't.
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lol, I wanna know how much u gained from that one
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