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fuck tren. i just cant take the idea of getting gyno and not being able to control it.
you can controll the gyno easy if you take a low dose or even better yet use tren A your first time to see how you respond. as you know tren A will be way easyer to controll then tren E!
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you can controll the gyno easy if you take a low dose or even better yet use tren A your first time to see how you respond. as you know tren A will be way easyer to controll then tren E!
i am so sensitive to estrogen gyno that i need to run nolv or adex on 500mgs a week. then if the gyno starts comming from the progestin side i will have to run dostinex. i just dont want to be on all these ancil drugs while on cycle.
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i am so sensitive to estrogen gyno
Well considering you're not far off from being a bitch, I concur with this above/\
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i am so sensitive to estrogen gyno that i need to run nolv or adex on 500mgs a week. then if the gyno starts comming from the progestin side i will have to run dostinex. i just dont want to be on all these ancil drugs while on cycle.
ya i understan im the other way i can take test up to 1000mgs with no gyno but progestron kicks in fast and hard over 300mgs tren.

your just gonna have to get tren A and give it a try if it hits just lower the does untill you find what you can take or just say fuckit and stop. you never know you might not be affected like me to progestron you can be one of thoes guys that takes 1000mgs tren with no problems.
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na, i think i will just skip the tren all together. from what everyone is saying, the mental sides are worse then test. i get pretty aggressive on test alone so i better just stay away from tren.
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na, i think i will just skip the tren all together. from what everyone is saying, the mental sides are worse then test. i get pretty aggressive on test alone so i better just stay away from tren.
in that case bro steer clear, sends me to the fwokin dark side!
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wow im the other way around i am happy as can be on gear and when im off i notice i snap at people a bit more.
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ah, you fuckers. i dont know what the hell i want to do. maybe test at 500mgs per week and tren at 200mgs a week. .5mg of Arimidex EOD and Caber on hand in case. any issues with running both A-dex and Caber at the same time? i dont plan on running the caber but if progestin gyno appears i will have to run it.
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ah, you fuckers. i dont know what the hell i want to do. maybe test at 500mgs per week and tren at 200mgs a week. .5mg of Arimidex EOD and Caber on hand in case. any issues with running both A-dex and Caber at the same time? i dont plan on running the caber but if progestin gyno appears i will have to run it.
or just run tren A you wont need caber. i never heard of anything wrong with caber and A-dex at the same time.

thats my next cycle test 600mgs and tren 300mgs. im only using the tren cuzz GH is to much $$$$ these days if not it would be just test and GH. tren seems to melt the fat off me with out any muscle loss at all.
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or just run tren A you wont need caber. i never heard of anything wrong with caber and A-dex at the same time.

thats my next cycle test 600mgs and tren 300mgs. im only using the tren cuzz GH is to much $$$$ these days if not it would be just test and GH. tren seems to melt the fat off me with out any muscle loss at all.
why do you keep saying tren A and "you wont need caber". no matter what the ester, if the the tren is going to cause gyno, its going to cause gyno. sure, tren A dosent last as long in the system but caber would handle tren A or tren E just the same. no?
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why do you keep saying tren A and "you wont need caber". no matter what the ester, if the the tren is going to cause gyno, its going to cause gyno. sure, tren A dosent last as long in the system but caber would handle tren A or tren E just the same. no?
yes caber will take care of gyno either way but you said you didnt want to use it. thats why i keep sayin tren A its realy easy to figure out what you need. once you feel gyno you just lower the does and your done no need for caber. thats if you are even sensitive to progestron. tren E is a whole new beast to deal with
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yes caber will take care of gyno either way but you said you didnt want to use it. thats why i keep sayin tren A its realy easy to figure out what you need. once you feel gyno you just lower the does and your done no need for caber. thats if you are even sensitive to progestron. tren E is a whole new beast to deal with
how much lower can i go though ya know? 200mgs is pretty low.

has anyone used caber and arimidex at the same time? actually, has anyone ever had the need to run both? dont want to run nolv with tren, read that nolv can make progestin gyno worse.
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how much lower can i go though ya know? 200mgs is pretty low.

has anyone used caber and arimidex at the same time? actually, has anyone ever had the need to run both? dont want to run nolv with tren, read that nolv can make progestin gyno worse.
bounce I will tell you what I do and you can take if for what its worth. I read what everyone says about what goes with what. you know I am on Dec/tren/test/mast I take 1mg dost and 20mg nov on sunday and that is it. if I don't I can start to get itchy and slight pain in the nips. but I consider 2 pills a week to be easy to control and also for what its worth when I did get tren gyno it went away on its own if I just left it alone. never had it remain. and I guess you can count the masteron as an anti-aromotase at a small level (250mg per week).
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bounce I will tell you what I do and you can take if for what its worth. I read what everyone says about what goes with what. you know I am on Dec/tren/test/mast I take 1mg dost and 20mg nov on sunday and that is it. if I don't I can start to get itchy and slight pain in the nips. but I consider 2 pills a week to be easy to control and also for what its worth when I did get tren gyno it went away on its own if I just left it alone. never had it remain. and I guess you can count the masteron as an anti-aromotase at a small level (250mg per week).
what were your doses of test and tren? i cant imagine that i would get any kind of gyno at 250mgs of test a week and 200mgs of tren. who knows though.
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what were your doses of test and tren? i cant imagine that i would get any kind of gyno at 250mgs of test a week and 200mgs of tren. who knows though.
200mg of parabolan/200mg of deca/250mg of test/250mg maste
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so in effect you had 400mgs total of a compound that could have cause the progestin gyno. para and deca.

you think at 200mgs of tren i have anything to worry about?
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so in effect you had 400mgs total of a compound that could have cause the progestin gyno. para and deca.

you think at 200mgs of tren i have anything to worry about?
honestly no. but at that dosage if you notice you can stop and it won't matter at all.
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