test prop and cutting? doesnt make sense

[parabody]

I see alot of people recommending test prop to cut down or lean down, i was planning on running eq, prop, clen, winstrol, and arimidex. But it says that this substance cause high water retention and thats one of the things i was trying to avoid. Also, on my last post people were asking while i was running arimidex but when i was reading the profile on prop it was saying that arimidex is highly recommended to help avoid water retention, hair loss, and oily skin.....


Just wondering if someone can give me some insight to this if im reading wrong or what i should really run.

Planned Cycle
Test prop every other day adding up to 300-400 mgs weeks 2-12
Equipoise twice a week adding up to 600mgs weeks 1-12
Clenbuterol Run 2 weeks on 2 weeks off substituting with eca stack
Winstrol 40mgs/day weeks 6-12
Arimidex .25 mgs every third day

Proper pct including hcg, clomid, and continuing the arimidex

[THE BOUNCER]

Well I think you are misunderstanding a little. You wouldn't run prop to cut so to speak. Basically you always want to run some kind of test during a cycle. Out of all the forms of test, prop will cause the least amount of water retention, etc..

[redback]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

Well I think you are misunderstanding a little. You wouldn't run prop to cut so to speak. Basically you always want to run some kind of test during a cycle. Out of all the forms of test, prop will cause the least amount of water retention, etc..

im running prop now. Bouncer, you really think that prop is any different to any other test ? I wouldnt think you would have any less water retention..?

[hitmansb]

prop tends to give you less water retention because your blood levels of test dont' get as high as when you use long esters: long esters have a cumulative effect: you've got a certain precentage of the last 3 or 4 weeks of injects in you and active at any given time. Prop clears in 2 days, so you don't get that cumulative build-up. Less total test = less test to aromatize into estrogen = less water

[fog_hat1981]

Hitmansb is correct - however - I'm a firm believer that NO MATTER WHAT you're diet is the key - I have personally run enanthate all the way to contest time - water retention wasn't even a factor...

Originally Posted by hitmansb

prop tends to give you less water retention because your blood levels of test dont' get as high as when you use long esters: long esters have a cumulative effect: you've got a certain precentage of the last 3 or 4 weeks of injects in you and active at any given time. Prop clears in 2 days, so you don't get that cumulative build-up. Less total test = less test to aromatize into estrogen = less water

[redback]

welcome back

[parabody]

Some will go so far as to say that propionate will harden the physique, while giving the user less water and fat retention than one typically expects to see with a testosterone. Realistically however, this is nonsense. The ester is removed before testosterone is active in the body, and likewise the ester cannot alter the activity of the parent steroid in any way, only slow its release

thats the reason i was asing thanks fo the help

as far as my cycle how does it look

[parabody]

can i edit my post i meant to write 300-400 of test prop a week, 100mg every other day

[gymratin]

very good advice. why arent u starting the prop from week 1?

[parabody]

not running prop from week one because im letting the eq and prop kick in around similar times since eq has a longer half life than the prop

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by parabody

Some will go so far as to say that propionate will harden the physique, while giving the user less water and fat retention than one typically expects to see with a testosterone. Realistically however, this is nonsense. The ester is removed before testosterone is active in the body, and likewise the ester cannot alter the activity of the parent steroid in any way, only slow its release

thats the reason i was asing thanks fo the help

as far as my cycle how does it look

it wont harden the physique but you will hold less water. so in a sense you could say, that it is the ester causing less water retention because of the spikes and length in blood levels.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by parabody

not running prop from week one because im letting the eq and prop kick in around similar times since eq has a longer half life than the prop

well dont expect anything in those first 2 weeks. EQ is a weak drug, even when it kicks in it is very mild.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by parabody

can i edit my post i meant to write 300-400 of test prop a week, 100mg every other day

yea, just hit the edit button under your post.

[parabody]

yeah i dont expect much the first couple weeks not till about week 3 or 4 but when i ran enan i was so bloated thats why im trying to run a new different cycle, trying to lean out a lil less bloat.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by parabody

yeah i dont expect much the first couple weeks not till about week 3 or 4 but when i ran enan i was so bloated thats why im trying to run a new different cycle, trying to lean out a lil less bloat.

like foghat said, a big part is diet. if you are eating a lot of sodium etc you will bloat fast.