The Science of Steroids on National Geographic.

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Hour long episode on National Geographic channel is on right now. Also on again tonight at 2am and again on 2/21 at 8pm.

[adamuscle]

Watching it now. Too many opinions that aren't backed by science for me to take it serously.

Also, right after that show is NGC Explorer "Testosterone Factor" at 8pm. That looks like it might be a little more intelligent and science based.

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Originally Posted by adamuscle

Watching it now. Too many opinions that aren't backed by science for me to take it serously.

Also, right after that show is NGC Explorer "Testosterone Factor" at 8pm. That looks like it might be a little more intelligent and science based.

You said it. They even tried to blame Lyle Alzados (sp?) death on steroids. never mind the fact that his own doctors made it public and very clear that his disease had nothing to do with steroid use at all.

i have the testosterone factor show on my dvr. will give my thoughts after i watch it.

[JUICE]

i saw the show, it was interesting.

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the testosterone factor show that came on after it was great. it was pure science and no hype or media bullshit.

they did tests and studies on all kinds of animals, fish, etc.. it is amazing how our mind influences testosterone.

for example, they were looking at a group of fish. in the tank was the dominant male. he was brightly colored and much more aggressive then the other fish in the tank. his T levels were several times higher then the other males in the tank. the other males in the tank were reduced to acting like female fish just to eat and live, they had almost no color at all. one night, the researchers took the dominate male out of the tank. within 5 days, on of the males that had previously been a nobody in the tank had taken complete control. his test levels rose sharply and his colors changed. the point was, just the environment your in can change your t levels.

same goes for humans. as soon as men get married, researches saw a decline in test levels. same goes for having kids. mens levels fall again. but as soon as a man is back on the dating scene, his levels suddenly rise again.

it was a great show, you guys should check it out.

[adamuscle]

i agree, the second show was very good.

[Shibby]

I didn't get to see the test factor, but I thought the science of steroids was ok. The thing that I didn't like is how they would make a single statement which by itself is basically true. But they don't say anything about it not being normal or that there are ways to prevent or stop the problem. Like with the teenage baseball player. They stated he stopped cold turkey but they never said anything about people don't normally stop cold turkey or there are PCT options. Also that 50% of steroid users are over the age of 30 and are using it too look better. They make it sound like it's simply vanity and it has nothing to do with being able to exercise better and lead a healthier lifestyle. I think the show was good info for someone who doesn't really know much but it could also lead to the old saying "a little information could be a dangerous thing".

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Originally Posted by Shibby

I didn't get to see the test factor, but I thought the science of steroids was ok. The thing that I didn't like is how they would make a single statement which by itself is basically true. But they don't say anything about it not being normal or that there are ways to prevent or stop the problem. Like with the teenage baseball player. They stated he stopped cold turkey but they never said anything about people don't normally stop cold turkey or there are PCT options. Also that 50% of steroid users are over the age of 30 and are using it too look better. They make it sound like it's simply vanity and it has nothing to do with being able to exercise better and lead a healthier lifestyle. I think the show was good info for someone who doesn't really know much but it could also lead to the old saying "a little information could be a dangerous thing".

exactly shib, they would make a statement and then not explain it. and many times, the statement was made to imply something that is in fact not true.

you really should watch the testosterone factor show if you can, really neat.

[Shibby]

I keep doing a search on my DVR but I don't see it coming on again.

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Originally Posted by Shibby

I keep doing a search on my DVR but I don't see it coming on again.

yea, i cant find it either. do a search again in about a week or so.

[Shibby]

I plan to do it every Monday since I know it's not on in at least the next 10 days. The way you two have describe it, it sounds very interesting.

[Bdubb]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

as soon as men get married, researches saw a decline in test levels. same goes for having kids. mens levels fall again. but as soon as a man is back on the dating scene, his levels suddenly rise again.

All research aside, I find this a bit funny. Maybe it's just because we all see it happen in a way to friends or to ourselves yet do our best to deny the fact despite the behavior changes.


I didn't get to see the 2nd show, Test. factor, but will have to see if I can still find it in the guide.


I'm not sure if any of you remember, but the baseball players father that was on the first show was on this website several years back getting into discussions or disputes about his opinions at that time.

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Originally Posted by Bdubb

I'm not sure if any of you remember, but the baseball players father that was on the first show was on this website several years back getting into discussions or disputes about his opinions at that time.

yep, the hooton guy. he is a good man that loved his son very much. but he is a little bit blinded by the light so to speak. he accepts no responsibility and will simply not even listen to the fact that maybe his son had something a little wrong with him before he got into steroids. he simply says, "steroids killed my son". and that is why i cannot take him seriously. steroids definitely had something to do with his mental state but there was a reason his son went so far as to kill himself. underlying issues that i feel deep down his father knows about but simply cant admit it.

[Bdubb]

I agree with you there Bouncer. I think some good has come out of it though. I am not against steroid use so to speak but I am very much against the high school kids taking them. I saw a need for it when I was in school with a strict football program. I think each state has it's hs sports spotlight in some fashion and in Texas football is a huge one. The place in which Hooton was when he died is almost somewhat in a bible belt of sorts for high school athletics be it baseball or football. I feel kids are taking them because it's their chance to be the superstar or to get into college. Blame whomever needed, but the drive to perform at that young age is there in my opinion.

I will be interested to see how the law that Mr. Hooton got passed in Texas takes place over the next few years with H.S. testing for AAS.

Sorry to ramble on there...

[highrep]

does anyone have a link for this.

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Originally Posted by highrep

does anyone have a link for this.

lol, it was just on last night again.

i cant find it on the schedule anymore after last night.

[Shibby]

If you see the test factor coming on let me know please.

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Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

lol, it was just on last night again.

i cant find it on the schedule anymore after last night.

actually it is on again tonight at 7pm.

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Originally Posted by Shibby

If you see the test factor coming on let me know please.

it was on last night.

it will be on again Tuesday, May 20, 7pm

[curtus e flush]

YouTube - Testosterone Factor is this the show...well part of it...and yes my ring finger is longer than my pointer...

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Originally Posted by curtus e flush

YouTube - Testosterone Factor is this the show...well part of it...and yes my ring finger is longer than my pointer...

thats the show