British Dragon Founder and Redicat Arrested in Thailand

[DS-COUSIN]

British Dragon Founder and Redicat Arrested in Thailand

Two of the best-known and most successful internet sources of anabolic steroids have been arrested at a Pattaya seaside resort in Thailand as part of an international sting operation involving the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). They will be extradited to the United States on “charges of using the Internet to illegally export steroids to the United States” (”Two Britons arrested in Thailand after sting operation: police,” March 21)

Police gave the names of the two detained men as Ashly Vincent Livingston, 45, and Edwin Richard Crawly, 44. They were arrested in a sting operation involving US anti-drug agents, police said.

Anthony Roberts called me to identity Edwin Richard Crawly as one of the founders of British Dragon and to identify Ashly Vincent Livingston as Redicat. Anthony broke the story on his blog.

Thai authorities have told the media that the two Britons did not do anything illegal in Thailand. Consequently, they face no charges in Thailand.

Livingston and Crawly set up an online store to sell steroids to customers in the United States. Steroids are legal in Thailand but are a controlled substance in the US.

Additional details are becoming available over the course of the day (”British Steroid Gang Apprehended in Pattaya by DEA and Thai Police,” March 21).

The police later arrested Mr.Edwin Richard Crawley (44) a British national who lives in the house, which he had used as the centre of operations for his business. According to the police report, Mr. Edwin Richard Crawley originally opened a company called” Nutri Med. Co. Ltd.” registered as an import-export company…

Another police team also searched a single house opposite and found Mr. Graisorn Tongrak (31) the son- in-law of Mr.Edwin Richard Crawley, who was looking after the house for his father- in-law…

After that, the police took both suspects to search another building in the same soi, registered as a company called” Vincent Centre Service Co. Ltd. operating a postal and utility bill payment service. Here, however, police found several empty bags of drugs, called “British Dragon” and 2,500 copies of steroid instruction sheets. The D.E.A. officers took the steroids away for evidence. They also searched a warehouse behind the Nutri Med. company office, where they found and confiscated two machines used to pack steroids and also seized two land deed papers relating to the two houses, a Toyota car, a BMW R1200 RT motorbike, and 13 bank books which contained millions of baht; in total property worth about Bt 20 million.

A third group of police later arrested Mr.Ashley Vincent Livingston (45) British, and Mrs. Jirawan Livingston(38) , his wife, living at a house in Moo. 10, Soi Kow Noi, Pattaya Hill 1. According to the information police had received, they all belonged to the same gang, whose big boss was Edwin Richard Crawley. At this house, the police did not find any evidence, but seized a land deed paper, a Honda and a Toyota car, jewellery, Bt 100,000 in cash, and six bank books, which had many tens of millions of baht in the accounts. Police Major General, Amaresrit Wattanawiboon, revealed that Thai police were originally notified by the D.E.A. that they had intercepted steroids, which had been delivered to America in plain envelopes and on investigation, discovered that the biggest operation was in Pattaya . Mr. Edwin (the big boss) had been importing steroids from China through the Internet and then forwarding them to USA and Europe. On receipt, customers would send money to his account in Thailand. Some of the goods were sent to Pattaya and repacked in dolls or fruit, to be sent to Europe by parcel or in plain envelopes. Mr. Ashley had been worked with Mr. Edwin as his assistant, finding customers for him. This operation had been running since 1999. It made him a millionaire, being able to afford to buy property in Pattaya worth Bt 20 million.

The anabolic steroid black market is on the verge of being driven completely underground meaning steroids will likely travel same channels as black market narcotics. Obviously, this makes the use of black market androgens more dangerous than ever.

[THE BOUNCER]

Did a search on google news and got this. Looks like the story is confirmed.

BRITISH STEROID GANG APPREHENDED IN PATTAYA BY DEA AND THAI POLICE --> Pattaya Daily News : pattaya daily update news

[Mr incredible]

wow, bummer if its true, up go the prices,

[Mr incredible]

so was Anthony Roberts the grass then? and how can the DEA just extradite when they are British in Thailand for gods sake, English politics are so weak it makes me sick, that shit shouldn't be legal as they arn't terror suspects

[Mr.Mafioso]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

Did a search on google news and got this. Looks like the story is confirmed.

BRITISH STEROID GANG APPREHENDED IN PATTAYA BY DEA AND THAI POLICE --> Pattaya Daily News : pattaya daily update news

I LOVE the drscription in this article...

british gang? haha

[crossconnect]

Why are the feds so worried about anabolic steroids?Why don't they go after heroin and cocaine which are produced in other countries?Those drugs produce more devastating problems (theft,lost time at work,lack of morals to get the next fix,etc etc)in our communities.most steroid users are tax paying citizens who are contributing members of society.They just like to work out and be more muscular.This is purely a political witch hunt.Steroid producers might be an easier target for lazy DEA than the true narcotic producers and dealers.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by crossconnect

Why are the feds so worried about anabolic steroids?Why don't they go after heroin and cocaine which are produced in other countries?Those drugs produce more devastating problems (theft,lost time at work,lack of morals to get the next fix,etc etc)in our communities.most steroid users are tax paying citizens who are contributing members of society.They just like to work out and be more muscular.This is purely a political witch hunt.Steroid producers might be an easier target for lazy DEA than the true narcotic producers and dealers.

that argument is made every time. i agree with your point but they are just doing there job. if you go to work and your boss tells you to start working on a project, thats what you do.

[Control]

Originally Posted by crossconnect

Why are the feds so worried about anabolic steroids?


.Steroid producers might be an easier target for lazy DEA than the true narcotic producers and dealers.

You just answered your own question.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by Mr incredible

and how can the DEA just extradite when they are British in Thailand for gods sake

because most of the money was made selling to the US market where it is illegal.

if they were smart they would have lived in a non extradition country.

[Mr incredible]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

because most of the money was made selling to the US market where it is illegal.

if they were smart they would have lived in a non extradition country.

There arn't many;

"Countries without treaties or diplomatic relations
The countries which have neither diplomatic relations nor extradition treaties with the U.S. are: Bhutan, Iran, North Korea, and Taiwan (which the United States does not consider a country under the One-China policy"

Extradition law in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by Mr incredible

There arn't many;

"Countries without treaties or diplomatic relations
The countries which have neither diplomatic relations nor extradition treaties with the U.S. are: Bhutan, Iran, North Korea, and Taiwan (which the United States does not consider a country under the One-China policy"

Extradition law in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there are more then that. for example, if you are a citizen of France, the US will have a hell of a time extraditing back to the US.

[crossconnect]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

that argument is made every time. i agree with your point but they are just doing there job. if you go to work and your boss tells you to start working on a project, thats what you do.

Exactly!political BS as usual.
i know shit rolls downhill,but that still doesnt answer my question as to why they are targeting anabolic steroids when the hard drugs cause all the crime in this country and lack of willpower to go find a job and be a legitimate tax paying part of society.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by crossconnect

Exactly!political BS as usual.
i know shit rolls downhill,but that still doesnt answer my question as to why they are targeting anabolic steroids when the hard drugs cause all the crime in this country and lack of willpower to go find a job and be a legitimate tax paying part of society.

they don't care about drugs. there is no such thing as "the war on drugs". give the gov enough money and they will let it be. if the steroid industry was as big as the cigarette industry we wouldn't be having this discussion. cigarettes are more dangerous then steroids in every aspect, so its obviously not safety that determines what is illegal and what is not.

[bigscott]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

that argument is made every time. i agree with your point but they are just doing there job. if you go to work and your boss tells you to start working on a project, thats what you do.

that is exactly what is going on -- all brought on by the balco eye opening - it snow balled from there

[bigscott]

shame - redicat has been around a long time