cycle help

[the man]

whats up..i need help with a cutting cycle... i have a bunch of stuff nd wanna kno what would be the best way to cycle everything in.... im 5'11" 175pd... with about 10% bodyfat...i wanna get down to 4-6% bodyfat.... i have t3, winstrol, letroplex (to remove some existing gyno), haloplex, and lasix......it be great to get some help

[THE BOUNCER]

just be ready, you are going to get yelled at for this one. lol.

i will give you some basic guidelines to work with.

#1. Cutting is all about diet, if your diet is not in check you wont cut no matter what drug you use.

#2. Letroplex sounds like some kind of supplement knock off of the real letro. Get yourself real letro the supp is worthless. Get real letro here. Superior-Research.com

#3. Be very careful with any diuretic (lasix). Diuretics are the leading cause of kindey/death problems in bodybuilding. If you are not doing a show, please do not even consider using it.

#4. Haloplex is one of the most toxic substances in all of bodybuilding. It use is always limited to a few weeks at most and the only real result you will get is increased aggression. A poor choice IMO.

#5. Winny and haloplex is a poor cycle every way you look at it.

If I were you, I would post up your diet so we can see how it looks. As far as a cycle I would probably run some prop and some tren along with low dose arimidex.

[Stonecold54]

hey bouncer just to clear up, the "PLEX" stuff is made my axiol labs...its how they end all their products.... but I agree with bouncer's points.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by Stonecold54

hey bouncer just to clear up, the "PLEX" stuff is made my axiol labs...its how they end all their products.... but I agree with bouncer's points.

ok, nevermind on the letro point. but the rest is still true. the man, just make sure you do your research and read as much as you can. with cycles like that, you are going to end up hurting yourself and not have much to show for it.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

with cycles like that, you are going to end up hurting yourself and not have much to show for it.

I agree! If you are not competing there is no need for some of thoes things. keep it simple and get your DIET in check.

[the man]

ok thanks....i wont bother with the lasix... but im tryingto stay in the same weight class and only work on stregnth nd so thats why i picked halo and winny.. as far as the prop and tren....im tryin to stay away from the syrines...ill do a bit more damage if i f*** up there.... my diet will be....morning... egg whites and soy milk... 2 hours later... protein shake... lunch: blended tuna shake...2 hours later: some fruit and vegetables... dinner: chicken and vegetables....before bed protein shakke.....also if anyone could let me kno if youve or anyone u kno have taken t3 and if its effective or not that would be great....let me kno guys thanks

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by the man

ok thanks....i wont bother with the lasix... but im tryingto stay in the same weight class and only work on stregnth nd so thats why i picked halo and winny.. as far as the prop and tren....im tryin to stay away from the syrines...ill do a bit more damage if i f*** up there.... my diet will be....morning... egg whites and soy milk... 2 hours later... protein shake... lunch: blended tuna shake...2 hours later: some fruit and vegetables... dinner: chicken and vegetables....before bed protein shakke.....also if anyone could let me kno if youve or anyone u kno have taken t3 and if its effective or not that would be great....let me kno guys thanks

what do you mean you will do more damage if fuck up with syringes? a cycle worth anything needs to be injected bro. orals are meant to compliment injectables, not be the main cycle.

[the man]

dude... if i inject then im using like test or something nd then that defeats the whole purpose of pickin these orals to prevent any bloating....if you think that it defenitely should only be used with injects then do you kno oof any prohormones good for a cutting cycle

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by the man

dude... if i inject then im using like test or something nd then that defeats the whole purpose of pickin these orals to prevent any bloating....if you think that it defenitely should only be used with injects then do you kno oof any prohormones good for a cutting cycle

Serious question are you not wanting to inject! test prop will not cause any bloat! also if your diet is good test E will not cause any real bloat and what ever lil bloat you get will be wiped away with the letro you were gonna take anyways.
some prohormones do work but at what cost to your liver? It is cheaper to use real injectable test more safe and works better IMO.
JMO but if you are not ready to inject then you are not ready for gear!

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by the man

dude... if i inject then im using like test or something nd then that defeats the whole purpose of pickin these orals to prevent any bloating....if you think that it defenitely should only be used with injects then do you kno oof any prohormones good for a cutting cycle

prop and tren will not cause bloat. it will lean you out. oral only cycles are shit and so are pro hormones.

[MickG]

How many cycle have you done bro? Id do the prop and tren as well. All ive seen from what you have is a stan cycle, which really doesnt add much at all in gains. I have use lasix to cut tho. If you want to use as little $ as possible, just get some prop and run it with the stan.

[the man]

All ive seen from what you have is a stan cycle, which really doesnt add much at all in gains..........yeah im not looking for many gains....just trying to get bf down....with maybe a a bit of stregnth alng the way...i will make gains naturally with mydiet which will be followed 100% without any exceptions along

[bigscott]

Originally Posted by the man

All ive seen from what you have is a stan cycle, which really doesnt add much at all in gains..........yeah im not looking for many gains....just trying to get bf down....with maybe a a bit of stregnth alng the way...i will make gains naturally with mydiet which will be followed 100% without any exceptions along

your diet will determine -- body fat loss -- body fat gain - bloat- etc etc etc
not the drugs any moron can run gear its the diet that makes the difference not the gear !!

one rule of thumb i live by -- bulking up is bulking - cutting is cutting - you cant do both at the same time !!!!

i forgo worrying about my body fat % when bulking add carbs [clean] and more total calories !! my goal is to put size on -- not get fat !!! big difference -

when cutting -- pull back on carbs and total calories - lean down -


the drugs come last -


also coming on here and asking guys to set up your cycle -- give me a break --

just by reading some of your posts and response you need to take some time to learn -

like i said any moron can run gear -- its learning about the effects of running said gear will have on you --

specially an all oral cycle -- which is foolish to me

[the man]

i just got tamoxifen...which is just plain white tablets and at 20 mg and t3 in a small little bottle of pink tablets that dont say anything on them....has anyone come across them before are they legit?

[bigscott]

Originally Posted by the man

i just got tamoxifen...which is just plain white tablets and at 20 mg and t3 in a small little bottle of pink tablets that dont say anything on them....has anyone come across them before are they legit?

all comes down to weather you trust your source or not bro -- these days i would be more cautious -

things are harder to get !! therefore the chance of getting bunk stuff will increase -- nature of the beast

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by the man

i just got tamoxifen...which is just plain white tablets and at 20 mg and t3 in a small little bottle of pink tablets that dont say anything on them....has anyone come across them before are they legit?

i have never heard of t3 in pink tabs. then again, i am no t3 expert so..

[the man]

alrite i got my answer so im good thanks tho...i also just started my cyle and my friend convinced me to go with injects so im now doing 250ml of test e a week along with 20 mg of haloplex a day and 20mg of winny.... along with 1.25 of letro eod to keep water down and treat an existing gyno case.... id like to get some input though...does this sound a bit better? thanks alot

[THE BOUNCER]

sounds better bro, i think you will like the results.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by bigscott

all comes down to weather you trust your source or not bro -- these days i would be more cautious -

things are harder to get !! therefore the chance of getting bunk stuff will increase -- nature of the beast

so very true!

[the man]

kk thanks... ill let you kno after how it went....thanks for the advice man it was a big help