Steroid Dealer & IFBB Fitness Pro girlfriend found dead at home

[redsquirrel]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/sp...l?ref=football

This is unbelievable. His girlfriend was an IFBB fitness pro....This guy even mentioned in an interview recently after this broke, that all of the dirty people he dealt with definitely had the means to knock him off. My question is, why wasn't more protection offered to this guy? If they wanted him to roll so badly on the NFL players and such, it's obvious he would need some sort of security.

It was made to look like a murder suicide...Obviously, kicking a door in makes it a little hard to believe it was a murder suicide. I'm sure the media will turn this into another free for all, citing roid rage is the reason; when in fact, I will guarantee this is a homicide. But, let's be serious- the guy got 3 years probation, and $25k in fines; HARDLY something to shoot your girlfriend & yourself over.

Too many things about this just don't add up. I can't wait to see how this plays out.

[Turbo3000]

That's a terrible tragedy, but he as a grown man made a choice to break the law, he was then caught. He should of kept his mouth shut and served his time, that is how the game should be played.

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Turbo3000

That's a terrible tragedy, but he as a grown man made a choice to break the law, he was then caught. He should of kept his mouth shut and served his time, that is how the game should be played.

That's is true...But, he didn't even have to serve any time- He only got 3 years probation. So, it's not like they threw the book at him. I guess it's possible the prosecution gave him a deal in exchange for the names of the guys in the NFL. But on the flip side, with the Balco thing in baseball, this should come as no surprise to the NFL players that they would be caught as well. Getting disciplined or even suspended isn't worth murdering 2 people.

[Turbo3000]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

That's is true...But, he didn't even have to serve any time- He only got 3 years probation. So, it's not like they threw the book at him. I guess it's possible the prosecution gave him a deal in exchange for the names of the guys in the NFL. But on the flip side, with the Balco thing in baseball, this should come as no surprise to the NFL players that they would be caught as well. Getting disciplined or even suspended isn't worth murdering 2 people.

I in no way condone what happened to him and his girlfriend, and for all we know he could of rolled on a big powder supplier.

It is a terrible thing to happen, but I am a firm believer that if you break the law then stay on that side, don't hop onto the law's side if/when they catch you.

[THE BOUNCER]

He didn't kill himself. Someone in the NFL or some other "high level" person with a lot to lose had him killed. Crazy shit.

[ROCKETW19]

I know as bad as it sounds, but I say fuck him lil snitch! Just as turbo said if you do the crime do the time. No sence dragging other people down in YOUR mess.

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

He didn't kill himself. Someone in the NFL or some other "high level" person with a lot to lose had him killed. Crazy shit.

ABSOLUTELY. Amanda Savelle was shot in the face. Hardly a murder/suicide. Shooting someone in the face is a direct indicator of malice, and something personal against the victim.

I'm thinking there's more behind the story. I can't justify 1 or 2 players in the NFL who may risk suspension or whatever to take measures of this proportion.

I'm thinking these 1 or 2 players who he supplied, who supplied the players is where this is going. I'm guessing the list they supplied to is LONG.

And you know what- WHO CARES!??! Knowing who took the Gas in the NFL or in baseball does not enrich my life in ANY way. I don't care!!! Bush is losing every other war he's tried to fight, so he declares war on the most insignificant one.

[Mr incredible]

thats weird, I reckon it was white or brown involved somewhere, suprising if just AAS. Although some of those NFL guys are pretty raw and many of them got there one break in life otherwise they may have been running drugs etc. Some of them probably still have hangers from before they made it so are stil conected with filth.

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Mr incredible

thats weird, I reckon it was white or brown involved somewhere, suprising if just AAS. Although some of those NFL guys are pretty raw and many of them got there one break in life otherwise they may have been running drugs etc. Some of them probably still have hangers from before they made it so are stil conected with filth.

Not sure I understand your comments. This guy was convicted of manufacturing steroids in his kitchen w/ powder from China. The guy supplied AAS to 2 NFL players,of which he disclosed both of their names. Those 2 were supplying AAS to a slew of other players- So, I'm assuming the next step for the NFL was to investigate the names the 2 players were supplying to.

White or brown wasn't a factor whatsoever. This was over Jacobs telling the prosecutors and the NFL as to who was taking AAS. THAT'S why he got whacked. He snitched. Whoever did this wanted to shut this guy up

[Mr incredible]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

Not sure I understand your comments. This guy was convicted of manufacturing steroids in his kitchen w/ powder from China. The guy supplied AAS to 2 NFL players,of which he disclosed both of their names. Those 2 were supplying AAS to a slew of other players- So, I'm assuming the next step for the NFL was to investigate the names the 2 players were supplying to.

White or brown wasn't a factor whatsoever. This was over Jacobs telling the prosecutors and the NFL as to who was taking AAS. THAT'S why he got whacked. He snitched. Whoever did this wanted to shut this guy up

So you think they killed him because they were worried about being banned from playing football for a while, and or perhaps dealing AAS to other players. It just seeme a bit extreeme to be believable to me given the fines/loss of earnings, sentances that they would have recieved.

Although saying that, there was that time an ice skater had her boyfriend attack another so that the first girl had less competition on the ice rink to worry about so stranger things have happened

[alwaysgrowing]

Originally Posted by Mr incredible

So you think they killed him because they were worried about being banned from playing football for a while, and or perhaps dealing AAS to other players. It just seeme a bit extreeme to be believable to me given the fines/loss of earnings, sentances that they would have recieved.

Although saying that, there was that time an ice skater had her boyfriend attack another so that the first girl had less competition on the ice rink to worry about so stranger things have happened

tell that to the mother of Rae Carruth's child.

These guys have huge egos about them. Someone I went to school with was invited to NFL training camp out of college. Didn't go anywhere, but event he fact he was there, he thought he was better than everyone.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by Mr incredible

So you think they killed him because they were worried about being banned from playing football for a while, and or perhaps dealing AAS to other players. :

you are damn right. people have others killed for much less then that. we are talking about the possible loss of million and millions in contracts sponsorship etc..

[hitmansb]

I'm certainly not going to shed any tears over a dead rat...

[SonofBone]

Definitely doesn't sound like a murder suicide. If it wasn't, I don't think she had to be taken unless they were attempting to make it look like a murder suicide or the perpetrators felt she'd snitch on them. All around bad deal on many fronts.

[FrankTheTank55]

MySpace.com - Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell - 30 - Female - Plano, Texas - www.myspace.com/amandasavell

I agree, if you snitch you pay the price. But I feel sorry for the girlfriend. Im sure she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and they had to take her out.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by FrankTheTank55

MySpace.com - Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell - 30 - Female - Plano, Texas - www.myspace.com/amandasavell

I agree, if you snitch you pay the price. But I feel sorry for the girlfriend. Im sure she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and they had to take her out.

I feel bad for the both of them honestly. I really don't agree with the thoughts expressed in the whole thread to be honest.
So the guy was a rat about some steroids. That doesn't mean his life should be taken. He had a family and friends that cared for him. He made some mistakes etc.. we all have. You guys are talking like this guy is as bad as a child molester or a murder etc..

[Mr incredible]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

I feel bad for the both of them honestly. I really don't agree with the thoughts expressed in the whole thread to be honest.
So the guy was a rat about some steroids. That doesn't mean his life should be taken. He had a family and friends that cared for him. He made some mistakes etc.. we all have. You guys are talking like this guy is as bad as a child molester or a murder etc..

Sometimes it seems people talk like gangsters, I certainly don't see myself as anything but respectful and law obiding, it just happens I use AAS to improve my athletic performance, something that happens to be not entirely straight i the eyes of the law in the US.

What happened is very sad and strikes me as something that maybe started as a threat and got out of hand. Either way, the guy wasn't a serial killer and lets not start talking like we are the criminal underworld, we're better than that

[alwaysgrowing]

Dallas police are saying it was a murder/suicide. ESPN just talked about it. You know they are going to blame it on steroids now.

[THE BOUNCER]

for fuck sake. they are saying it was a murder suicide now. son of a bitch. if they were murdered, the media would have focused on the actual death of 2 people and focus on the case. but not that it looks like he killed himself and his girl, the media will jump all over the "steroids made him kill" type shit.

[Mr incredible]

All in all it seems more likely to me that they argued, she locked him out, he kicked the door in shot her then himself. Maybe she was leaving him for somebody else?

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by Mr incredible

All in all it seems more likely to me that they argued, she locked him out, he kicked the door in shot her then himself. Maybe she was leaving him for somebody else?

now i don't really feel sorry for the piece of shit. this is just 1 more fucking idiot like Benoit that will cause more problems for the average steroid user just doing it to get bigger and not cause trouble.