Arimidex and Nolv together

[THE BOUNCER]

Any negatives to this? I know some people say the 2 will cancel each other out and yet others say that is not the case at all and they work together in 2 different ways.

I was running .5mgs ED of armidex during my test/tren cycle. Got a little puffyness around the nip still but nothing that wont go away. I stopped the tren a month ago and continued with the test so that I would not be shut down so hard. I plan on comming off the test for a month and then going back on a different cycle.

In this month that I will be off everything I want to completly get rid of the puffyness and I was thinking 40mgs of Nolv ED and .5mg of A-dex ED for a month will do the trick.

Let me know what you think or what you would change etc... Thanks

[COLOSSUS]

I thought you said you were gonna go back on tren?


also iv heard that they both cancel eachother out as well

not entirely sure but i would just finish with the nolva and hit the a dex afterwards

[THE BOUNCER]

i am going back on the tren. as i said, in a month.

i am already running the a dex so no way i am stopping that now and taking the chance that the puffyness gets worse.

[COLOSSUS]

oh i figured you get back on sooner

hows the noodle

[THE BOUNCER]

i wanted to get back on sooner but decided it would be a good idea to take that month and totally eliminate all puffiness as opposed to going back on and making it worse.

noodle is comming back. just no where near the drive of when i was running the test/tren

[COLOSSUS]

i see.
so are you using the a dex for prog. gyno problems? or is it for estrogen gyno?

does the a dex work for both?

i get puffy nipple problems during my test cycles. im sure its water retention from estrogen floatin around.

[THE BOUNCER]

na, just using the a-dex to lower total estrogen and lessen the chance of gyno. i dont think puffiness is from the progesterone because I have been off the tren for a month and it has stayed the same. i am just really sensative to estrogen. so the adex is lower the estrogen and the nolvadex will be to block any remaining estrogen from getting to the nips.

[Mr incredible]

I don't see a problem with running both just to get ontop of it. You may even get some small return of testicular action aswell but only a little.

Personally I'm using nolva right now with test and Masteron at 20mg per day. Every other week or so my nips have still got a bit puffy and so I've introcuced some femera for a few days and it goes right down.

So theres another example of different actions used at the same time to combat estrogen related gyno.

As we know there are reasons (cholesterol, bone density) for not suppressing the esttrogen completely in your body, for extended periods. Therfor it seems worthwhile to use nolva as a matter of course and something extra like drimidex or femera where you need it.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

Any negatives to this? I know some people say the 2 will cancel each other out and yet others say that is not the case at all and they work together in 2 different ways.

I was running .5mgs ED of armidex during my test/tren cycle. Got a little puffyness around the nip still but nothing that wont go away. I stopped the tren a month ago and continued with the test so that I would not be shut down so hard. I plan on comming off the test for a month and then going back on a different cycle.

In this month that I will be off everything I want to completly get rid of the puffyness and I was thinking 40mgs of Nolv ED and .5mg of A-dex ED for a month will do the trick.

Let me know what you think or what you would change etc... Thanks

I have "heard" that rumor many times also. I have no clue if its true, Im not sensitive to estrogen at all.
I dont realy see the need to run both. 40mgs nolva will stop anything from attaching, and if you have been running the A-dex all this time your estorgen will be pretty dam low anyways.
Do you have real nolva and A-dex? I dont trust research companys to have there shit straight.

[wnabeabeast]

I don't know this response is gonna make sense but...B remember this thread?


Nipples getting tender from cycle.
Even after lowering the dosages tenderness and little hard spot under the nipple never went away completely and right around the same time you made this thread.



Proviron + Nolvadex = Gyno.. For me at least..


So I decided to stop everything(even aromasin) except the little test since I wasn't on the cycle that I was planing to be on I decided to change my diet to semi bulking diet from cutting(started to eat little more carbs that's all) and add around 600mg eq aweek and next thing you know with in couple of weks all the puffiness, sourness and even the hard little spot under the nipple went away so since looks like we both react kinda same to those compounds may be you should try it. And I am sure all the pros might be able to explain how or why I reacted that way to the eq and test combo.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

I have "heard" that rumor many times also. I have no clue if its true, Im not sensitive to estrogen at all.
I dont realy see the need to run both. 40mgs nolva will stop anything from attaching, and if you have been running the A-dex all this time your estorgen will be pretty dam low anyways.
Do you have real nolva and A-dex? I dont trust research companys to have there shit straight.

you dont see the need for both because you have no issue with estrogen. lol. i have been running a-dex and still have a minor issue so something else needs to be added. yes they are real, reason I know is, if i come of the adex things get worse..

[fog_hat1981]

You're VERY sensitive to test aren't you?

If so have you ever just run Nolva along with low dose test or always a-dex?

I'm not exactly sure what you're coming off for a month for because I don't think it will do you ANY good except to throw your hormones even further out of whack - what are you trying to accomplish there besides telling yourself "at least I came off for a month" to have some peace of mind in your use?

Tren is the ONLY thing I have found thus far that gives me any hints of gyno and Letro is all I've ever used for it - I have an entire bottle of Dostinex I haven't touched simply because the Letro worked and I wasn't going to take both.

I would suggest running letro to kill off ANY remaining gyno/puffiness but continue running your cruise shots of 250mg of test per week - coming off for a month makes no sense to me and since a-dex and nolva cancel each other out I wouldn't chance doing that. The letro could be run during your next cycle as well seeing that you'll have test "and" tren combined and letro can help with both. Of course if all you're trying to accomplish is to get rid of the puffiness then I suggest you follow the outline you posted back in (maybe) March for Letro use and how to use it for getting rid of gyno - it's pretty thorough and should accomplish that for you if nothing else...

[THE BOUNCER]

i agree with you on coming off the test for a month being worthless. i have decided against that.

i have tried to stay away from letro simply because it is so strong and didn't want to sacrifice gaines. may have to give it a try though.

what do you think about the nolvadex/ armidex combo though?

[COLOSSUS]

Originally Posted by fog_hat1981

since a-dex and nolva cancel each other out I wouldn't chance doing that.

answer your question?

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i agree with you on coming off the test for a month being worthless. i have decided against that.

i have tried to stay away from letro simply because it is so strong and didn't want to sacrifice gaines. may have to give it a try though.

what do you think about the nolvadex/ armidex combo though?

also would the gains really be affected that much by adding letro to the mix?

i would run the letro like fh said to eliminate any puffiness

[fog_hat1981]

Letro won't kill your gains bro - I keep my doses VERY low (on most everything I do) and now that I'm off tren I don't even use it - in your case since you're trying to get rid of existing gyno I would just suggest a heavy "loading" phase of letro and then only use it "as needed" if/when you are back on a full blown cycle (even with tren I was only taking 1/4 syringe of letro every week or 10 days). Don't worry about gains during the "getting rid of gyno" stage anyways - the goal is to kill off the existing gyno and then you can use a-dex OR nolva to keep it away once you get back on a normal cycle you wish to bulk/cut with...

Don't use both - that was why I said letro in my first post....

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i agree with you on coming off the test for a month being worthless. i have decided against that.

i have tried to stay away from letro simply because it is so strong and didn't want to sacrifice gaines. may have to give it a try though.

what do you think about the nolvadex/ armidex combo though?

[fog_hat1981]

Cruise back over that thread you made on Letro a few months back that laid out dosing schedules for what you need - it was really informative and right in line with what you're trying to do now...

[wnabeabeast]

Did you guys see my earlier post?(post # 10) what do you guys think?

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by wnabeabeast

Did you guys see my earlier post?(post # 10) what do you guys think?

it confused me a bit. lol. maybe you can explain it more and not post links.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by fog_hat1981

Cruise back over that thread you made on Letro a few months back that laid out dosing schedules for what you need - it was really informative and right in line with what you're trying to do now...

i have read it.

my concern is stopping the a-dex that i have been running and starting something else. could possibly make things worse.

i am also not sold on the 2 canceling each other out. that was little more then a theory if i remember right. i think i will continue with the nolv and adex for a week or 2 longer and if things dont get better i will go with your suggestion.

[hitmansb]

I don't buy into the whole 'one cancels the other out' theory. I always run .5mg adex ED along with 10mg nolva ED while on test, and it's kept the gyno away...and I'm VERY sensitive to estrogen.

[wnabeabeast]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

it confused me a bit. lol. maybe you can explain it more and not post links.

All I am saying is when I took everything out and added eq to the test all my symptoms went away. So since we respond the same compounds same way be you should add 500 or 600mg eq to your test and see what happens, instead of worrying about all those anti e's

only reason I posted those links to show you that we were doing the same thing and it gave us the same gyno results that's all.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by wnabeabeast