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Old 06-28-08, 05:27 AM
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Beat Dose of GH for cutting up?

Hello everyone.
just went off of a cutting cycle.

taking 8 weeks off of AAS.

I just started 1 week ago running GH 5iu/day , 5 days/week.

Also using Ephedrin 25 mg/day - 2 weeks, and 2 weeks off.
While im off Ephedrin - I'm using Clen 200 mcg/day.


Any ideas how to improve my cutting?

stats:

Weight : 181 lbs, 17-18% BF
Height: 5.84 ft

Idan.

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Old 06-28-08, 07:32 AM
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Hello everyone.
just went off of a cutting cycle.

taking 8 weeks off of AAS.

I just started 1 week ago running GH 5iu/day , 5 days/week.

Also using Ephedrin 25 mg/day - 2 weeks, and 2 weeks off.
While im off Ephedrin - I'm using Clen 200 mcg/day.


Any ideas how to improve my cutting?

stats:

Weight : 181 lbs, 17-18% BF
Height: 5.84 ft

Idan.


all i see is drug info !! which should be listed last -- diet and cardio being the more important aspects of cutting should be listed first -

so whats your diet and cardio setup like ?
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Old 06-28-08, 08:23 AM
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My diet and cardio setup are listed in Nutrition forum to get a diet check

i'll post here too.

Im 181 lbs around 17-18% BF.

My goal is to cut up as much as I can and then continue bulking up.



Right now my diet looks like that:

Meal 1 :

1 cottage cheese 1/2% fat + 2 whole weat Crackers. - 40 cals, 7g carbs each cracker.

Meal 2:

1 Scoop of optimum whey 100% protein.

Meal 3 :

200 grams of chicken breast + 1 whole wheat cracker.

Meal 4 :

1 Tuna + 2 eggs white + 1 whole wheat cracker + 1 small spoon Olive Oil.

Workout
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after lifting - : 1.5 scoop OPTIMUM WHEY + 3/4 Table Spoon of grape sugar.

20 mins after drinking Protein I'm having 40 mins Cardio.
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30 mins after Cardio - Meal 6:

200 grams of chicken breast + 100 grams of brown rice.

Meal 7:

1 Cottage Cheese + 1 small spoon Olive Oil.


eating 12-13 vegies a day.

basicly I'm kinda stuck and not losing weight, cutting up very very slowly, doing cardio 3 times a week. 40 mins each.
doing Lifting 5 times a week.
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Old 06-28-08, 08:35 AM
 
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how long have you been running this diet? you said you came off a cutting cycle recently also. i ask because 18% bf is a bit high. i doubt you really needed any cycle. diet and cardio is all you need. lower the bodyfat and THEN think about the drugs.
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Old 06-28-08, 08:42 AM
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about 3 months, first two months i had 3500 calories, and probably high carbs i guess. now i lowered the carbs, but i think i still have much calories from protein. should i lower the protein too?

I tried to do it slowly at start in order to keep muscle as much as I can.
but now i just stay the same condition, same weight.

is there something wrong with my diet?
I burn about 500 calories a cardio day.

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yes, big issues with the diet, check your diet thread for my advice.
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Old 06-28-08, 07:42 PM
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Fix the diet first and foremost (more lean meat, more low GI carbs, more healthy fats). But I will say this: 5iu a day is TOO MUCH GH. You're far better off running 2iu/day (split into 2 shots of 1iu) for a longer period of time.
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Fix the diet first and foremost (more lean meat, more low GI carbs, more healthy fats). But I will say this: 5iu a day is TOO MUCH GH. You're far better off running 2iu/day (split into 2 shots of 1iu) for a longer period of time.
either that or cut the 5 ius everyday to 8 or 10 ius eod -- i have seen a huge difference since doing this -- also spread out in 3 injects throughout the day -

8 ius - 3 -2 -3 -- 3 ius with your first meal 2 ius with your mid day meal and 3 ius with your last meal -- or if you train late afternoon / take the 3 with your post workout meal
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