anti e's

[bigscott]

originaly posted by dadawg


Who In The Hell Wrote In Stone That You have To Run A Anti Estrogen With Your Cycles?

News Flash 90% Of All Of You Could Run A Cycle With Moderate Doses Without Any Antiestrogens During The Cycle . Many Of You Could Run A Cycle With Heavy Doses With Little Or No Antiestrogens. You Guys Couldnt Have Made It In The Old Days Before Arimidex Came Along.

Fact A Little Bloat Is Fine And Doesnt Become A Problem Unless It Raises Your Blood Pressure . Fact Bloat/waterweight Gives You Temporary Strength Gains Which Will Allow You To Lift Heavier And Promote Permenant Strength And Lean Mass Gains. Fact Too Little Estrogen Can Kill Libido , Thats The Main Reason You See So Many Threads About A Limp Willie These Days. Fact Antiestrogens/low Estrogen Can Send Your Cholesterol Into The Crapper.


Its A Known Fact That The Internet Invented Gyno . Once Everyone Read About It A Few Times Their Nipples Started To Itch And Gyno Suddenly Appeared.


The Ease Of Obtaining Antiestrogens Has Been A Blessing To Those Who Need Them And A Curse To The Rest Of Us.
The Purpose Of Antiestrogens In Our Community Is To Control Estrogen Not Eliminate I

[bigscott]

i agree with this

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by bigscott

i agree with this

I agree with the first half also, most people run a anti-e with even knowing if they need it. this is all to common.

I dont agree with the last part about the internet invented gyno, I had a bad case of gyno before the internet was around.lol

[THE BOUNCER]

i disagree with it 100%. scott you go to the shows just like I do bro. there is more gyno on stage then ever before. its right there in your face, not just something talked about on the internet. if i dotn run an anti -e i get gyno on 250mgs of test..

[bigscott]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i disagree with it 100%. scott you go to the shows just like I do bro. there is more gyno on stage then ever before. its right there in your face, not just something talked about on the internet. if i dotn run an anti -e i get gyno on 250mgs of test..

yes i do agree with you aswell B -- for those that need it should use it - i just feel its overused which in turn hampers gains -

we do have to have some estrogen in our bodies -- most try and eliminate it not realizing having none is worse then having some -- you can control the gyno with alot less amounts being used today -

so in retrospect i dont wholly agree with it but do believe anti es are overused but hell so is most of the gear being run anymore

[Stonecold54]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i disagree with it 100%. scott you go to the shows just like I do bro. there is more gyno on stage then ever before. its right there in your face, not just something talked about on the internet. if i dotn run an anti -e i get gyno on 250mgs of test..

I think that is more of the prolactin and peptides...its seems like that would be the difference from the 90's and present.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by Stonecold54

I think that is more of the prolactin and peptides...its seems like that would be the difference from the 90's and present.

not sure about the prolactin. deca has been around from day 1 and tren in the 80's..

peptides and GH you might have a point though..

[Alin]

Originally Posted by bigscott

i agree with this

I totally DISAGREE with that post.
I think I look and feel MUCH better when I run the right dosage of AI or other ANTI-E's. People OFTEN just take too high of dosages.
People NOT using AI's or other ANTI E's is what created gyno.

[redback]

some people need it some dont, i have run some big test cycles and never had gyno problems ever.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by redback

some people need it some dont, i have run some big test cycles and never had gyno problems ever.

you also ran big test cycles and never gained anything from them.. lol

[redback]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

you also ran big test cycles and never gained anything from them.. lol

Ya true, but i have also ran big test cycles and gained 20lbs.

[Stonecold54]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

not sure about the prolactin. deca has been around from day 1 and tren in the 80's..

peptides and GH you might have a point though..

yeah I was talking more about tren products and anadrol