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Cryotechmuscle · #1 02-21-10, 11:55 AM

I'm 6'8", 253lbs with 19% body fat. Can i get a few pics of guys who are genetically maxed out?

My dumbbell military press has plateaued at 90lbs per arm (for years, trying to find a way around it. Just started using 70lbs instead of 90, and sitting on a medicine ball to improve stabilizers.), my curl has plateaued at 65lbs per arm for 5 reps. My tris are still improving as is my bench. But very slowly. Have i reached my genetic limit on these lifts? I've been training for about 4 years now.

Alin · #2 02-21-10, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryotechmuscle

I'm 6'8", 253lbs with 19% body fat. Can i get a few pics of guys who are genetically maxed out?

My dumbbell military press has plateaued at 90lbs per arm (for years, trying to find a way around it. Just started using 70lbs instead of 90, and sitting on a medicine ball to improve stabilizers.), my curl has plateaued at 65lbs per arm for 5 reps. My tris are still improving as is my bench. But very slowly. Have i reached my genetic limit on these lifts? I've been training for about 4 years now.

Maybe you should switch up your exercises and then go back to the DB PRESS later,,this sometimes will help you get past sticking points.

**CrankinSteiN** · #3 02-22-10, 05:46 AM

Alin is right.... Another thing is how many reps do you do... Power lifters usually go in the lower rep numbers in order to gain strength.... So if you aren't you could try doing a set of 6, set of 4 and maybe a set of 2.... Maxing out with as much weight as possible as well as forced reps can help you get stronger...

al the chemist · #4 02-22-10, 09:01 AM

no offense, but those lifts are pretty weak in comparo to what I do and im 5`8` 195 about 14% bodyfat...you def need to revamp your workouts and maybe even train with someone who knows what they are doing...ive trained people who were "maxed out genetically" without any supplementation and taken them farther than they thought was possible

Cryotechmuscle · #5 02-22-10, 09:49 AM

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no offense, but those lifts are pretty weak in comparo to what I do and im 5`8` 195 about 14% bodyfat...you def need to revamp your workouts and maybe even train with someone who knows what they are doing...ive trained people who were "maxed out genetically" without any supplementation and taken them farther than they thought was possible

195 14% body fat puts you at around 168lbs. 253 at 19% body fat puts me at 205. Damn straight i take offense to what you said bro. Im a personal trainer and i'm qualified to train ignorant people like you. I know what i'm doing. i've only known one other guy who can lift 90lbs per arm military. i could switch to barbell, but I've tried this before. So i'm gonna tackle it at a different angle.

And by the way fuck you man. Seriously.

gearofwar · #6 02-22-10, 11:00 AM

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195 14% body fat puts you at around 168lbs. 253 at 19% body fat puts me at 205. Damn straight i take offense to what you said bro. Im a personal trainer and i'm qualified to train ignorant people like you. I know what i'm doing. i've only known one other guy who can lift 90lbs per arm military. i could switch to barbell, but I've tried this before. So i'm gonna tackle it at a different angle.

And by the way fuck you man. Seriously.

possibly not the best way to go about asking for advice, if you dont like what he's saying and reply like that, then the more senior members of the forum who are extremely helpful may be wary of giving you advice!!

just a thought...

***THE BOUNCER*** · #7 02-22-10, 11:04 AM

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i've only known one other guy who can lift 90lbs per arm military.

there is your problem. you are in a gym surrounded by "average types" so to speak.

you want to progress with your lifts you need to put yourself in an atmosphere conducive to progression. a gym where only 1 other guy can do 90lb db presses is not the place.. lol

p.s. the guy was trying to help you and you say fuck you? maybe your attitude is the reason you are so weak? something to think about..

al the chemist · #8 02-22-10, 01:40 PM

I was trying to be nice but as a professional you must be terrible at your job and you must look like shit because you pointed out yourself how much you outweigh me therefore you should be able to do alot more weight example, I do arnold presses with 90s and straight dumbell presses wid dumbells with 110 for sets...so maybe you should step your game up because sounds like your a real pussy

al the chemist · #9 02-22-10, 01:44 PM

oh yea btw I do not need to state what I do but I would guarantee I have more education and knowledge in this field than your little brain could contain so do not try and call me ignorant

**CrankinSteiN** · #10 02-22-10, 04:11 PM

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And by the way fuck you man. Seriously.

NOT COOL AT ALL! Bro he may be ignorant but you are being arrongant... I'll take uneductaed over a pompous ass any day cuz the difference there is I can help teach the ignorant but the arrogant thinks he is superior and knows all so his potential is horribly limited....

If you think you know everything cuz you're a personal trainer then you are horribly mistaken.... I bet you at least half the guys that have the most knowledge on these boards don't have their certificate and believe me they know more about bodybuilding then you pretty much any trainer out there... Also most guys on these boards could get their training certificate without ever cracking a book because they have so much knowledge and have been living it for years... So how about you humble yourself if you want to come here asking for advice...

gearofwar · #11 02-23-10, 02:09 AM

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NOT COOL AT ALL! Bro he may be ignorant but you are being arrongant... I'll take uneductaed over a pompous ass any day cuz the difference there is I can help teach the ignorant but the arrogant thinks he is superior and knows all so his potential is horribly limited....

If you think you know everything cuz you're a personal trainer then you are horribly mistaken.... I bet you at least half the guys that have the most knowledge on these boards don't have their certificate and believe me they know more about bodybuilding then you pretty much any trainer out there... Also most guys on these boards could get their training certificate without ever cracking a book because they have so much knowledge and have been living it for years... So how about you humble yourself if you want to come here asking for advice...

Amen........

Konitz · #12 02-23-10, 08:17 AM

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i've only known one other guy who can lift 90lbs per arm military.

So are you saying only two people in the world can lift 90lbs. Military.

dna9488 · #13 02-23-10, 09:02 AM

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195 14% body fat puts you at around 168lbs. 253 at 19% body fat puts me at 205. Damn straight i take offense to what you said bro. Im a personal trainer and i'm qualified to train ignorant people like you. I know what i'm doing. i've only known one other guy who can lift 90lbs per arm military. i could switch to barbell, but I've tried this before. So i'm gonna tackle it at a different angle.

And by the way fuck you man. Seriously.

Not cool

Al is trying to give you some advice and you spit in his face. You can't just come in and here and say fuck you all you want to people just because of what you think is poor advice. This is how this board doesn't work. If you don't like, you are more than welcome to leave.

dna9488 · #14 02-23-10, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CrankinSteiN

NOT COOL AT ALL! Bro he may be ignorant but you are being arrongant... I'll take uneductaed over a pompous ass any day cuz the difference there is I can help teach the ignorant but the arrogant thinks he is superior and knows all so his potential is horribly limited....

If you think you know everything cuz you're a personal trainer then you are horribly mistaken.... I bet you at least half the guys that have the most knowledge on these boards don't have their certificate and believe me they know more about bodybuilding then you pretty much any trainer out there... Also most guys on these boards could get their training certificate without ever cracking a book because they have so much knowledge and have been living it for years... So how about you humble yourself if you want to come here asking for advice...

Well put man

alwaysgrowing · #15 02-23-10, 04:49 PM

I got 20 on the guy never posts again.

alwaysgrowing · #16 02-23-10, 04:49 PM

I take that back, he will post one more time saying he will never post again

***THE BOUNCER*** · #17 02-23-10, 04:51 PM

maybe typing is to hard for him? he is pretty fucken weak after all.

alwaysgrowing · #18 02-23-10, 05:07 PM

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maybe typing is to hard for him? he is pretty fucken weak after all.

haha. I love the people who are all abouit strength, but yet look like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man (80's ghost busters reference

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dna9488 · #19 02-23-10, 05:38 PM

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I take that back, he will post one more time saying he will never post again

No, he'll post again, its just a matter of time. I hope he will post his diet so we can rip him a new one on that.

al the chemist · #20 02-23-10, 11:51 PM

I would just love to see his workouts and the weight he does which I could without a doubt shit on...

**CrankinSteiN** · #21 02-24-10, 05:48 AM

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haha. I love the people who are all abouit strength, but yet look like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man (80's ghost busters reference

)

I think you mean the state puff marshmallow man... lol

Konitz · #22 02-24-10, 10:32 AM

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I think you mean the state puff marshmallow man... lol

Actually it is Stay Puft.... I did not know that either....

alwaysgrowing · #23 02-24-10, 11:36 AM

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Actually it is Stay Puft.... I did not know that either....

Cryotechmuscle · #24 02-26-10, 12:44 PM

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NOT COOL AT ALL! Bro he may be ignorant but you are being arrongant... I'll take uneductaed over a pompous ass any day cuz the difference there is I can help teach the ignorant but the arrogant thinks he is superior and knows all so his potential is horribly limited....

If you think you know everything cuz you're a personal trainer then you are horribly mistaken.... I bet you at least half the guys that have the most knowledge on these boards don't have their certificate and believe me they know more about bodybuilding then you pretty much any trainer out there... Also most guys on these boards could get their training certificate without ever cracking a book because they have so much knowledge and have been living it for years... So how about you humble yourself if you want to come here asking for advice...

Loooooooook.....it's arrogant*..not arrongant...And uneducated*...whatevs.. I'm a good trainer. Probably the best at the gym i work at. I have a huge personality, and a huge ego to go with it. Sure, I'll admit it.

... If asking for insight on genetic limits means listening to bullshit, then yeaaaa I'm going to click the shut off switch. For my own good and for everybody following the thread. a 90lbs per arm is pretty good. (NATURAL, not on roids). Who cares whose being arrogant. Does anybody need bullshit?

Cryotechmuscle · #25 02-26-10, 12:52 PM

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Not cool

Al is trying to give you some advice and you spit in his face. You can't just come in and here and say fuck you all you want to people just because of what you think is poor advice. This is how this board doesn't work. If you don't like, you are more than welcome to leave.

I is too big for dis place methinks.

Shibby · #26 02-26-10, 01:20 PM

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I'm a good trainer. Probably the best at the gym i work at.

Does that mean I am a good basketball player because I am schooling all the kids at my son's day care?

Konitz · #27 02-26-10, 02:16 PM

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I is too big for dis place methinks.

Just keep telling urself that when you are lifting those 90lbs dumbells.

I wasn't going to go here but my friend who is 6'8" is 225lbs prolly 10% bf is skinny as a twig so 253Lbs at 19% is prolly the same muscle mass as him but just extra fat.

And I am pretty sure you are just a troll.

***THE BOUNCER*** · #28 02-26-10, 02:35 PM

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I is too big for dis place methinks.

too big but weak as fuck.

**CrankinSteiN** · #29 03-01-10, 04:43 AM

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Loooooooook.....it's arrogant*..not arrongant...And uneducated*...whatevs.. I'm a good trainer. Probably the best at the gym i work at. I have a huge personality, and a huge ego to go with it. Sure, I'll admit it.

... If asking for insight on genetic limits means listening to bullshit, then yeaaaa I'm going to click the shut off switch. For my own good and for everybody following the thread. a 90lbs per arm is pretty good. (NATURAL, not on roids). Who cares whose being arrogant. Does anybody need bullshit?

oh wow way to point out a couple typing errors.... I was typing fast cuz I'm busy and don't really have time to put you in your place but it had to be done so I took a min to tell you what I think and yes because I was typing fast and didn't proof read my post because I don't have time, I made a couple typing mistakes... So bravo to you for pointing them out but I'm sure we all know who the more educated of the two of us is and it isn't you...

dna9488 · #30 03-01-10, 12:14 PM

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I is too big for dis place methinks.

When you respond to me, I expect proper grammar and spelling. If you want to type like a 5 year old, you will be treated like a 5 year old.