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Old 07-17-10, 02:39 AM
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Question SARMS s4 + GH - thoughts?

So the word on the boards seems to suggest that at 50 ed SARMS s4 doesn't inhibit. Accordingly I'm wondering about using it as the androgenic component to synergise with GH a bit like test does. If it works you have a stack that would give you anabolic effects akin to a light cycle and no inhibition?
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sounds like an interesting concept. i guess the only way to see how it works is by trial.
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Old 07-17-10, 06:42 AM
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Correction to my earlier point it would seem that at 50mcg and above it can be suppressive but at levels needed to achieve physiological benefits (36mcg per day for a 200lb guy) its not suppressive. I'll try it
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Ya AOW loves SARMs anything with GH is good,lol. I personaly like IGF and GH
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Old 07-17-10, 02:09 PM
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Ya AOW loves SARMs anything with GH is good,lol. I personaly like IGF and GH
Never got much outa gh without aas before, and igf never did much either, gh plus aas however worked great so the sarm should just kinda replace the aas
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Never got much outa gh without aas before, and igf never did much either, gh plus aas however worked great so the sarm should just kinda replace the aas
Ya depends where you get the IGF from. Lets say all IGF is not created equal and IGF by its self is not close to IGF with GH.

I will be intrested to see how you like the SARMs I wanted it for my title fight but the lights and blury eyes just wont work,lol.
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Old 07-18-10, 12:41 AM
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Ya depends where you get the IGF from. Lets say all IGF is not created equal and IGF by its self is not close to IGF with GH.

I will be intrested to see how you like the SARMs I wanted it for my title fight but the lights and blury eyes just wont work,lol.
supposed to be undetectable but yeah I heard about the night vision thing, I wonder if its dose dependent
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i got nothing out of SARMS just great stamina in the gym. no strength gains not sure why only a 5 week run. kinda pricey. i used it as a bridge between cycles during PCT. i will try it again b4 I give up on it. the vision wasnt an issue for me. ppl scared me with the loss of night vision but it wasnt the issue. I dont think its night vision is the problem. I noticed it took much longer to adjust to light and dark not blurry vision or night vision. the problem is sensitivity to light and dark. i walked in on a bright sunny day to the office it took a good min or 2 for my eyes to adjust. i couldnt see well at all until they adjusted and i was fine. i drove at night and it wasnt an issue the headlights werent a problem. sides were minimal. i did feel a little weird on it. Im going to wait till i tried it again to comment.

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So both are ordered, picking the gh up this week and just waiting for RUI to do their thing, I'm thinking 4ius gh and 36mg Sarms s4 so we'll see. I'll be slaming the clomid also at the same time as pct
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I fucking love SARMs s4 - 50mcg split your dose up, am/pm. I have the night vision problem pretty bad and it made me break out like crazy but the strength and vast endurance benefits were worth it.

My eyes went back to normal within 3-4 days after I stopped it - only problem with the shit really is the fucking taste bro, literally like gasoline. It's one of the worst RC products ever - and I remember the excuse for cinnamon that I used to get clen in lol.
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I fucking love SARMs s4 - 50mcg split your dose up, am/pm. I have the night vision problem pretty bad and it made me break out like crazy but the strength and vast endurance benefits were worth it.

My eyes went back to normal within 3-4 days after I stopped it - only problem with the shit really is the fucking taste bro, literally like gasoline. It's one of the worst RC products ever - and I remember the excuse for cinnamon that I used to get clen in lol.
Same here on all points. As far as suppression goes I think it depends on the person as to at what dose it suppresses, or how long one uses it. But big deal just keep PCT on hand.
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So both are ordered, picking the gh up this week and just waiting for RUI to do their thing, I'm thinking 4ius gh and 36mg Sarms s4 so we'll see. I'll be slaming the clomid also at the same time as pct
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stay at 50mcg - you are a bigger dude brother - at 250lbs - you want 50 -25/am 25/pm
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stay at 50mcg - you are a bigger dude brother - at 250lbs - you want 50 -25/am 25/pm
Picked up my gh tonigh, norditropin simplexx fukin looks the biz, started that tonight ay 4iu so had my last shot enanth last Friday and transitioning now with gh then will start low dose sarm when arrives. Already heating up after the gh shot, love the feeling
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sounds like a great combo, sarms should be great, keep us updated on how the cycle goes.
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Sat at work today and after my first 4iu of gh last night I feel thoroughly tired. I could just curl up and go to sleep tight now. Its funny how these ole side effects get forgotten until you experience them again. I guess the next thing will be slightly swole hands that are still in the morning and the same with the feet. Interestingly in the latest readings I've done it seems people are starting to move away from thyroid meds while on gh and instead supplementing with thyroid support like sea kelp. Apparently the whole requirement for T4/T3 is a bit overstated. We'll see anyhow I don't think I'll need any such for a month or so. Looking forward to some abdominal tightening and leaning down.
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Sat at work today and after my first 4iu of gh last night I feel thoroughly tired. I could just curl up and go to sleep tight now. Its funny how these ole side effects get forgotten until you experience them again. I guess the next thing will be slightly swole hands that are still in the morning and the same with the feet. Interestingly in the latest readings I've done it seems people are starting to move away from thyroid meds while on gh and instead supplementing with thyroid support like sea kelp. Apparently the whole requirement for T4/T3 is a bit overstated. We'll see anyhow I don't think I'll need any such for a month or so. Looking forward to some abdominal tightening and leaning down.
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SARMS s4 arrived today so gonna start tonight, 50mg per ml so I'll do 0.75ml to equate 37.5 mg per day. This should keep me below any level that would cause suppression and so I will be running clomid as PCT. Been running HCG and FSH all along anyway.

so 37.5 mg SARMS s4 and 4iu gh per day
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love to hear how the sarms s4 is working for you, thats definitely a good dose to start off with, shouldn't give you any sides other than some strength gains.
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love to hear how the sarms s4 is working for you, thats definitely a good dose to start off with, shouldn't give you any sides other than some strength gains.
sides occurred at 25 for me .. I responded very well to it - just the night vision / acne were a pain.

I've ran it 3 times different doses, on AAS , off AAS , and now on GH.
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sides occurred at 25 for me .. I responded very well to it - just the night vision / acne were a pain.

I've ran it 3 times different doses, on AAS , off AAS , and now on GH.
not quite sure why but I didn't sleep for long last night, woke up at like 5am, SARMS?
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How are the hands are they tight? that Gh should be putting the smack down on you at 4ius ED.
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not quite sure why but I didn't sleep for long last night, woke up at like 5am, SARMS?
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How are the hands are they tight? that Gh should be putting the smack down on you at 4ius ED.
and wouldn't the GH help with sleep also - whats the deal MrI , your HG brand name shit is failing on ya !!! lol messin dog
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Ya gh should be making him wanna sleep all the time specially real top shit GH like he has
4ius of that stuff is like 10Ius of the china stuff
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TBH I haven't got the numb hands yet, slightly more vascular and more heated 24/7 and a lil leaner id say. I've no doubt on the gh front this is norditropin simplexx for christs sake. The gh is making me plenty tired I'm just saying I woke up way early and perhaps this is down to the sarms then
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How long you been on the sarms ?
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How long you been on the sarms ?
Do you ever read threads or just the last post? 2 days bra
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sorry lol - I thought you had just started cuz we had talked about it - but since you were talking in terms of the GH I knew you had to have been on that for awhile to even have finger numb so it wasn't adding up boss.
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I fucking love SARMs s4 - 50mcg split your dose up, am/pm. I have the night vision problem pretty bad and it made me break out like crazy but the strength and vast endurance benefits were worth it.
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IMO not worth it unless you're a pro or going for the pro card...Be safe.
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IMO not worth it unless you're a pro or going for the pro card...Be safe.
You must have your wiresd crossed dude, your taking tren and ambien and saying that about sarms.
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