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Old 10-21-03, 12:25 PM
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Final thoughts on 1st cycle

Ok guys I’ve been researching forever and it's time to get started. Once I make sure I have everything I hope to start the beginning of December.

Weeks 1-10 Test Eth or Cyp 500mg split into 2 shots
Weeks 1-10 EQ 400mg split into 2 shots
The two will be mixed in the same dart done Monday morning and Thursday evening.
1/4 mg ED all the way through PCT - Liquidex or maybe Femera (I’m still not sure on this but I’m leaning toward Femera)

I was originally going to take Clomid post cycle, but I figured since I was going to have the Nolva anyway in case of sides I might well get some use out of it and run it for PCT. I've read that some people like it more that Clomid and even together.
3 Weeks after last shot.
D1 Clomid 300mg / Nolva 40mg
D 2-7 Clomid 100mg / Nolva 20mg
D8-21 Clomid 50mg / Nolva 20mg

ED throughout
Cranberry Extract400mg twice a day
Milk Thistle 175mg twice a day
ALA 100mg a day
Multi vitamin

So how does everything look?
Any opinions on L-dex or Femera?
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Old 10-21-03, 12:48 PM
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I think that is a great first cycle. You should be very pleased with the results. Just make sure you have a good diet plan to go along with that cycle.

I can't help you on deciding between Liquidex or Femera because I have only used Liquidex. Maybe someone else could give you some advise on that.

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Old 10-21-03, 02:07 PM
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milk thistle bro? why take it when your not taking an oral with your cycle? I would say to just run clomid for 3 week at 100mg/day. I dont beleive in frontloading it....... but other then that it should be good.....
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Old 10-21-03, 03:10 PM
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milk thistle bro? why take it when your not taking an oral with your cycle? I would say to just run clomid for 3 week at 100mg/day. I dont beleive in frontloading it....... but other then that it should be good.....
Any toxins put in the body are processed by the liver not only orals. While orals are much worse I'd rather spend a few dollars and play it safe.
Do I NEED it probably not but it won't hurt.
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Old 10-21-03, 05:43 PM
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Looks very good...you've obviously done your homework. A little bit of D-bol weeks 1-3 (even just 20mg/day) would make it perfect.

BTW...I ran femara with my last test/EQ/dbol cycle...worked great.
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Old 10-21-03, 09:17 PM
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yeah they are processed by the liver but i wouldn't waste my money on it, but do what you want.....
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Looks good brother but I would add dbol weeks 1-4 at 20-30mg/day. Looks like a great first cycle. Keep us posted with you r progress.
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Old 10-22-03, 02:50 PM
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I am using liquid letrozole. I started it when I got itchy nips and it cleared it right up. I took .5ml for three days, then .25ml for three days and then .25ml eod. I quit taking it cuz I havent been holding much water becuase I watch what I eat but I am glad I have it around.
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Old 10-22-03, 05:18 PM
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Great looking cycle bro. You'll be happy with the results. This is a good PCT that I got from a friend of mine, Phreezer, at another board. Check it out.

Standard Recovery cycle.

HCG: 1000IU’s For Ten days. Starting one day after last injection.
Clomid: Starting on the last day of The HCG.
Day 1: 150mg
Day 2-8: 100mg ED
Day 9-16: 50mg ED
Day 17-24: 50mg EOD
NOLVADEX: 20mg ED Starting and Ending on the same day As the HCG.
If you are pron to gyno, or are having Itchy Nipples, painful nipples or lumps in your nipples. Administer 40mg-80mg ED For Two weeks.
Nolvadex is also something you can take throughout your entire cycle. You might try
10mg ED (1/2 tab). It will reduce water retention and help keep you from getting gyno.

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Old 10-22-03, 07:03 PM
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no way bro, i wouldn't run nolva your entire cycle.
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Old 10-24-03, 11:19 AM
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I'd drop the EQ, but besides that it looks good...
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Old 10-24-03, 10:21 PM
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test by itself is a good cycle, but remember, your first cycle is your best cycle, you should make the most of it......
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