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Old 12-15-03, 02:42 PM
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Proposed First Cycle

Im natural, been lifing for 4 years.
5'11, 237lbs 16%bf 22 years old
Endomorphic.. not looking for a real big bulker..

Gonna run..

sust 250 week 1-10 (2 shots a week)
eq 200 week 1-10
Maybe oral win tabs week 8-10.

what do you guys think?

Im not looking to put on too much weight, but more increase my over muscle mass. Not a bulke,r but not a sever cutter.. more of a lean mass cycle.
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Old 12-15-03, 03:26 PM
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what dose are you going to run the winny at ?
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Old 12-15-03, 03:49 PM
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50mg eod
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Old 12-15-03, 03:52 PM
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I thought you ran a cycle before.....I didn't think you were natural anymore but anyways.

I would up the dose of eq to 400mg and if your going to run winny, run it longer then 3 weeks bro.

I would go from weeks 7-12 @50mg/ed. So then you can run your PCT after last tab of winny
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Old 12-15-03, 03:54 PM
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I wouldn't run winny eod, like fatchops said at least 4 weeks @ 50mg ED ..
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Old 12-15-03, 04:00 PM
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FatChops~ nah.. Im still natural.. I pushed my cycle to the back burner for a while due to drama in other aspects of my life. Now that things have calmed down, I can persue training with full force again.

THanks for the advice bros.
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Old 12-15-03, 04:03 PM
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no problem bro I hope everything comes out o.k.....you have ran clen though right?
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Old 12-15-03, 04:16 PM
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Yeah, Ive run clen... and I liked it! =) But, it was Mexican. I wanna try some euro brand stuff, because like.. it seemed liek each pill was a different dose??? Like some days Id feel the sides, some days not??
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Old 12-15-03, 05:51 PM
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I use ventipulmin as far as clen goes. Great Stuff
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Old 12-15-03, 06:12 PM
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As someone who is getting ready to start his first cycle I have to ask.
Why not go with one compound at a time. you don't know how you are going to respond to any of them.

I'm getting ready to start my first cycle in a few week and I'm doing Test Eth and EQ.
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Old 12-15-03, 06:20 PM
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Well, I can get sust real cheap right now. (dont ask) REAL cheap, so Im goin that route vs. enth.

Im using the EQ just in case the sust stings.

And Im still contemplating the win at the end.. so by the seventh week, I hope to know whether I will go with it or not.
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Old 12-15-03, 06:59 PM
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your eq dose is too low bro--dont bother running if you cant atleast bump it up to 400 mgs a week

sus--500mgs-- 12 weeks
eq--400mgs--12 weeks

nice and simple--save the winny for another time
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