Help with Cycle

[DecaDaVe]

Hey guys ive decided that i think i wanna do a 12 week cycle using dbol, tren, test ethenate, and then clomid and nolvadex after it for pct....so if ne one wants to help, give me an idea of what dosages and such u would use...pretty much im askin u to make me a cycle, i mean i have an idea, but more opinons cant hurt...thanx for ur help.

[Murtle]

is this your first time

[psyco]

if its ur first cycle go with

500mg enant a week 12 weeks
75mg tren eod frm week 5 to 12
and 35mg dbol for first 4 weeks

hope i helped good luck bro

[telephone]

why dont you tell us what you have in mind for cycle outline and well go from there..

[prolangtum]

First cycle needs only to be test at 400-500mgs per week

[DecaDaVe]

alright it is my first cycle...i was thinkin around 500mg a week of enant and around 40mg of dbol...i just not sure how to cycle tren...75mg eod... do i have to inject eod, im not to fond of needles, can i inject 300mg of tren a week or does it not work like that? thanx guys.

[DecaDaVe]

Also can u guys give me ideas on pct using clomid and nolvadex

[telephone]

dude slow down..forget there is such a thing as tren for now..thats too much too fast..tren is for real..pro has a point..enan at 500 mgs week would swell you up if its first..if you feel you have to add in another agent use the dbol at 30 mgs ed and not 40..rome wasnt built in a day and ronnie coleman didnt just do his first cycle..

[telephone]

my bad..the pct..1oo mgs clomid 1st ed week and 50 ed 2 weeks more..nolvs only during cycle and ONLY if gyno symptoms appear(itchin sore to the touch nips)..if it occurs(unlees your sensitive to it it shouldnt with that cycle) use 40 mgs day until symptoms disappear and 20 duration of cycle..

[BLOODPUMP]

i agree with phone...........BLOODPUMP.......

[Schiznick]

i love ya PHONE but i gotta disagree......TREN is just fine for a first timer...besides all he's got other than that is TEST...first timer i would go somthin like this:

10 weeks

50 mgs FINA ED (Yes EVERYDAY, the half life is 24hrs)
500mgs TEST a week
30mgs DBOL ED first 6 weeks only

DONT use the novaldex unless your developing gyno (then 40mgs a day for 10 days)

Clomid 100mgs day for 2 weeks post cycle, then 50mgs A day for next 2 weeks

Good luck bro!

[telephone]

easy shciz..lol..hes already said hes afraid of needles..you got him bein pin cushion alredy..your gonna scare him..and glad to see ya around..i was wonderin if you were gonna make it over to new board..

[Schiznick]

haha, then like u said...if he's not man enough to go everyday, then forget about the TREN

[Doom]

I dont belive in tren for a first time user myself, people need to get accustom to weekly, or bi-weekly injections first

See how the body responds to test alone, like prolangtum said, then start adding this and that

[Schiznick]

Test alone? test alone will do NOTHING for u except waste your money because your not gonna keep any of your gains........what exactly is the problm with TREN for a first time user??? injecting is injecting whether its once a week or EVERDAY...

[DecaDaVe]

OK guys thanx for all the replies...another question...how long after the last injecton should i start clomid? i heard 3 weeks....

Two weeks... just me though.

[Stonecold54]

I would never use tren again unless I was getting ready for a competition or photo shoot. It is not a newbie drug, the worst thing possible is that it was found you can make it yourself. Now that it is easy to make, it is considered a newbie drug which it is not. Like previous people have stated, Test only is a great first cycle. Cycling is a game of experimentation and finding out what is right for you. If you jump into the game with three or four different compounds you won't know what is working and what is not. Keep it simple, keep accurate logs in your cycle.