Pigs Blood

[goliath]

let's start soaking all of our bullets in pigs blood. Then, drop flyers accross the entire middle east that informs all of them that we are doing such. lol - then see how long it takes them to stop shooting at us!

[Timma]

HAHAHA

[Bdubb]

They justed wasted a whole truck load of pic blood up in that part of the world a week or two ago. A truck loaded with pig blood turned over spilling the load all over the road...would have been nice to have it in Iraq...


http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html

[pudgy]

lol novel idea

[blm]

Fuck that, start capturing them, make them drink pigs blood and then bash their fucking skulls in w/the butt of the rifle, then piss on their fucking corpse. Bullets kill to fast, they wouldn't even have the opportunity to enjoy the blood.

[r_deese]

I agree, I was telling my dad we need to bomb them, pick up all the dead corpses, bury them in a massive burial hole, grind up pigs and throw that crap all over 'em and cover 'em up... that way they all know they're going to hell.

[JUICE]

i'll fucking pee on thier graves when thier all piled up and hope it comes out in the world news. Not a doing of the US but a doing by me.

[hawkeye]

what utter bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its fools like yourselves that love war, that breed hatred, that perpetuate racism.


you probably think that is the answer for everything-ask yourself one question-what would you do if your were living there? be honest -what would would u do??????

there's an old saying-"what you do unto others will be visited upon you" -its time you all learnt from your mistakes. sadly, the only time you will realise this, is when its too late.

[ugetsum]

[quote]Originally posted by hawkeye
[b]what utter bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its fools like yourselves that love war, that breed hatred, that perpetuate racism.


You have things backwards you jerk off! We don't love war! We don't love to have our troops die! We were attacked on 9/11 by a people that hate us simply because we're Americans. Period. For no other reason. That's racism you idiot! They're children are raised to hate us and to believe that killing is and dieing for the purpose of killing us is a glorious thing. We invaded Iraq believing there were WMD's there and they were planning on using them against us. Even though the WMD's haven't been found there is evidence that Iraq was planning to attack American targets, even Russia warned us of this. Hussein even attempted to have the first President Bush assassinated. Get your shit straight. You're a fucking joke!!!!!!!!!!!!

[goliath]

Originally posted by hawkeye
what utter bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its fools like yourselves that love war, that breed hatred, that perpetuate racism.


you probably think that is the answer for everything-ask yourself one question-what would you do if your were living there? be honest -what would would u do??????

there's an old saying-"what you do unto others will be visited upon you" -its time you all learnt from your mistakes. sadly, the only time you will realise this, is when its too late.

did you even read my original post?

[pudgy]

Originally posted by hawkeye
what utter bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its fools like yourselves that love war, that breed hatred, that perpetuate racism.


you probably think that is the answer for everything-ask yourself one question-what would you do if your were living there? be honest -what would would u do??????

there's an old saying-"what you do unto others will be visited upon you" -its time you all learnt from your mistakes. sadly, the only time you will realise this, is when its too late.

oh shit, this is too easy. You live in south africa and your "teaching" us about racism, LOL

[Luftdude]

Originally posted by hawkeye
what utter bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its fools like yourselves that love war, that breed hatred, that perpetuate racism.


you probably think that is the answer for everything-ask yourself one question-what would you do if your were living there? be honest -what would would u do??????

there's an old saying-"what you do unto others will be visited upon you" -its time you all learnt from your mistakes. sadly, the only time you will realise this, is when its too late.

I'm sorry but that's just wrong. If you want to talk about racism, must I remind you of apartheid in your country?

LD

[BENCH355ANIMAL]

You want to complain about our violent ways and hatred toward the enemy, but I guess you forgot OUR country is giving Africa 100's of millions of dollars to fight your country's AID's epidemic!!! How much money have you donated to the cause hawkeye?? or do you just sit around and watch it spread from your hut.

[hlcn8]

geeze, it seems the only way we can get positive P.R. from douche-bags like this is to blow people up, then people who get mad at us will have idiots like him screaming "you're only making it worse, how can you be so ignorant!?"
and don't tell me i'm ignorant, i LIVED in saudi arabia for 3 years, i know its people and its culture, i have friends who live there who sent apologies for the misguided actions of their fellow country- people after 9/11. Most people there despise the terrorists as much as we do. And so what if our disgust with those actions is so overblown that we postulate impossible scenarios in an attempt to blow off steam. yes, we may over-generalize and talk about nuking whole nations, but don't tell me that at least SOME of the people there don't deserve it.
Lastly, before you make an overblown statement about someone else making an overblown statement, think of where you are, think of the context. namely, THIS IS NOT YOUR BOARD, and i think the mods and other members have made it clear through previous posts that they don't care for someone getting all academic/over-analytical on their comments when they don't understand the context in which all these things are being said.
that said, i wouldn't pee on you if you were on fire...

[shortz]

Originally posted by hawkeye
what utter bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its fools like yourselves that love war, that breed hatred, that perpetuate racism.


you probably think that is the answer for everything-ask yourself one question-what would you do if your were living there? be honest -what would would u do??????

there's an old saying-"what you do unto others will be visited upon you" -its time you all learnt from your mistakes. sadly, the only time you will realise this, is when its too late.

I think someone is just mad that he's not living in the US.

It's ok, you may reap the benefits of the US from where you are and complain at the same time that we are doing everything wrong. Maybe the real mistake is wasting money on your country.

[hawkeye]

[quote]Originally posted by ugetsum
[b]

Originally posted by hawkeye
what utter bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its fools like yourselves that love war, that breed hatred, that perpetuate racism.


You have things backwards you jerk off! We don't love war! We don't love to have our troops die! We were attacked on 9/11 by a people that hate us simply because we're Americans. Period. For no other reason. That's racism you idiot! They're children are raised to hate us and to believe that killing is and dieing for the purpose of killing us is a glorious thing. We invaded Iraq believing there were WMD's there and they were planning on using them against us. Even though the WMD's haven't been found there is evidence that Iraq was planning to attack American targets, even Russia warned us of this. Hussein even attempted to have the first President Bush assassinated. Get your shit straight. You're a fucking joke!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear ignorant brainwashed moron no 1.-please read

Al Qaeda Connection
ALL THE LIES:
Cheney has claimed that the bombings in Iraq were related to blasts in Bali, Casablanca and Riyadh carried out by Al Qaeda.

According to a senior administration officials there is no conclusive evidence pointing to any particular group as being responsible for the bombings. “At this point, it isn’t clear who’s responsible for these bombings.” (55)

On November 7, 2002, President Bush said that Saddam Hussein” is a threat because he is dealing with Al Qaeda. . . . A true threat facing our country is that an Al Qaeda-type network trained and armed by Saddam could attack America and not leave one fingerprint.”

“Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda” (2003 SOU)

In his February 5, 2003 address to the United Nations, Secretary Powell stated that “what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations with modern methods of mass murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi an associate and collaborator of Osama bin laden and his al-Qaeda lieutenants.”
On July 24, 2003, Vice President Cheney cited Iraq’s “ties to terrorist groups” as a justification for the war.
In his “victory” speech on the USS Lincoln, Bush proclaimed “We have removed an ally of Al Qaeda.”
In September 2003, Cheney claimed US success in Iraq is “a major blow right at the heart of the . . . geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9-11.”

ALL THE FACTS:
In January 2004, Secretary Powell conceded that there is no “smoking-gun concrete evidence about” a connection with Iraq and Al Qaeda. (63)
A January 2004 report by the Army War College agreed and found “[t]he war against Iraq was a detour from, not an integral component of, the war on terrorism.” The war diverted valuable resources from the fight against Al Qaeda and homeland security. (72)
The Carnegie Foundation study on Iraqi WMDs also found no evidence of a link. (70)
The Joint Congressional Committee on September 11th Report concluded that there is no link between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Committee member Max Cleeland explained “[w]hat you’ve seen here is the manipulation of intelligence for political ends.”
A UN terrorism committee also found no evidence of an Iraq-Al Qaeda link other than Secretary Powell’s speech.

At the same time as the release of the 9-11 Report, a former Bush intelligence official revealed that the White House knew there was no basis for the link. Former State Dept. intelligence official Greg Thielman stated that the intelligence agencies agreed on the “lack of a meaningful connection to Al Qaeda” and reported this to the White House.”

In addition, the Zarqawi claim is a red herring since the administration had several chances to wipe out his organization or even kill him but never pulled the trigger because “the administration had set its course with Iraq.” (87)

The CIA, FBI and British intelligence have found no link between Al Qaeda and Iraq. One FBI official stated that “[w]e’ve been looking at this hard for more than a year and . . . we just don’t think its there.” British intelligence reports that Hussein and fundamentalist Bin Laden are ideological enemies. (6)

The director of the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence & Research dismissed the alleged link, claiming that the Bush administration “has had a faith based intelligence attitude.” (20)

In September 2003, Bush finally admitted that there was “no evidence” linking Iraq to 9-11. (36)

SOURCE:http://www.bushlies.net/pages/9/index.htm
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[ugetsum]

Originally posted by hawkeye
Dear ignorant brainwashed moron no 1.-please read

Al Qaeda Connection
ALL THE LIES:
Cheney has claimed that the bombings in Iraq were related to blasts in Bali, Casablanca and Riyadh carried out by Al Qaeda.

According to a senior administration officials there is no conclusive evidence pointing to any particular group as being responsible for the bombings. “At this point, it isn’t clear who’s responsible for these bombings.” (55)

On November 7, 2002, President Bush said that Saddam Hussein” is a threat because he is dealing with Al Qaeda. . . . A true threat facing our country is that an Al Qaeda-type network trained and armed by Saddam could attack America and not leave one fingerprint.”

“Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda” (2003 SOU)

In his February 5, 2003 address to the United Nations, Secretary Powell stated that “what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations with modern methods of mass murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi an associate and collaborator of Osama bin laden and his al-Qaeda lieutenants.”
On July 24, 2003, Vice President Cheney cited Iraq’s “ties to terrorist groups” as a justification for the war.
In his “victory” speech on the USS Lincoln, Bush proclaimed “We have removed an ally of Al Qaeda.”
In September 2003, Cheney claimed US success in Iraq is “a major blow right at the heart of the . . . geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9-11.”

ALL THE FACTS:
In January 2004, Secretary Powell conceded that there is no “smoking-gun concrete evidence about” a connection with Iraq and Al Qaeda. (63)
A January 2004 report by the Army War College agreed and found “[t]he war against Iraq was a detour from, not an integral component of, the war on terrorism.” The war diverted valuable resources from the fight against Al Qaeda and homeland security. (72)
The Carnegie Foundation study on Iraqi WMDs also found no evidence of a link. (70)
The Joint Congressional Committee on September 11th Report concluded that there is no link between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Committee member Max Cleeland explained “[w]hat you’ve seen here is the manipulation of intelligence for political ends.”
A UN terrorism committee also found no evidence of an Iraq-Al Qaeda link other than Secretary Powell’s speech.

At the same time as the release of the 9-11 Report, a former Bush intelligence official revealed that the White House knew there was no basis for the link. Former State Dept. intelligence official Greg Thielman stated that the intelligence agencies agreed on the “lack of a meaningful connection to Al Qaeda” and reported this to the White House.”

In addition, the Zarqawi claim is a red herring since the administration had several chances to wipe out his organization or even kill him but never pulled the trigger because “the administration had set its course with Iraq.” (87)

The CIA, FBI and British intelligence have found no link between Al Qaeda and Iraq. One FBI official stated that “[w]e’ve been looking at this hard for more than a year and . . . we just don’t think its there.” British intelligence reports that Hussein and fundamentalist Bin Laden are ideological enemies. (6)

The director of the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence & Research dismissed the alleged link, claiming that the Bush administration “has had a faith based intelligence attitude.” (20)

In September 2003, Bush finally admitted that there was “no evidence” linking Iraq to 9-11. (36)

SOURCE:http://www.bushlies.net/pages/9/index.htm

Again, I state that you're a fucking joke! Please use a source that's a little less biased than this quack website.

[spidey]

Any site named "Bushlies.com" must be completely objective, right?

What about Russian President Putin himself admitting that he gave us intelligence after 9/11 that Sadaam was planning massive terrorist attacks on US soil? What about the head hyjacker meeting with Iraqi intelligence agents only the week before 9/11? I suppose they could have just been having lunch and discussing the weather......

[Primal Instinct]

Actually, Putin hadn't announced any Russian intelligence reports about Al Qaeda attacks on US soil until after he met with Bush one week earlier. Putin isn't a very reputable guy either, as he has suppressed the only independent television station in Russia after they openly criticized the Russian government policy on personal freedom of Russian citizens. Putin then had the owner jailed. All of this PRIOR to his recent re-election. He is still a hardliner at heart.

As for the hijacker (Atta) meeting with Iraqi intelligence officials, that has been debunked by the 9/11 Commission because they have proof that Atta was in the US at the very same point in time as he was purported to be meeting overseas for the "meeting" and the evidence was false or fabricated.

Obviously, Bushlies.com IS very slanted but the facts and quotes by US government officials presented by Hawkeye above can be verified by conventional media sources listed in the footnotes (eg., Washington Post, 60 Minutes, Boston Globe, NY Times, LA Times, etc...) as well as Congressional investigation findings. A simple Google search would surely clarify these questions.

[ugetsum]

[

Obviously, Bushlies.com IS very slanted but the facts and quotes by US government officials presented by Hawkeye above can be verified by conventional media sources listed in the footnotes (eg., Washington Post, 60 Minutes, Boston Globe, NY Times, LA Times, etc...) as well as Congressional investigation findings. A simple Google search would surely clarify these questions. [/b][/quote]

There were some mistakes made. I don't think anyone questions that. However, Hawks original post stated that we breed hate and racism. Taking quotes out of context from a biased website proves nothing other than his ignorance. And for any American to defend this idiot just blows my mind!

[Primal Instinct]

ugetsum,

I don't agree with the Americans love war and breed hate comment either. I was not trying to defend Hawkeye but simply acting as an honest broker with regards to his subsequent post.

Hawkeye,

No one here on this board sets US foriegn policy nor has anyone of us had a vote towards any actions taken by our current government policies overseas or here at home. Policy is not based on a referendum vote. Whether any of us agree with it or not is basically irrelevant for all intensive purposes. We are fortunate in the fact that we can openly disagree with our government's policies whereas other nations (Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc...) do not have that luxury. Open debate is what makes the free democratic countries of the world so desireable to others on the outside looking inside. It is not accurate to paint all US citizens with a broad stroke as war mongering or with racist tendencies. That is an unfair characterization of millions of people. We do not classify all muslims as terrorists or an inept backwards society so please don't call us bloodthirsty.

[hitmansb]

Quite frankly, I don't even care that Bush and his administration lied to get into the middle east to start kicking ass. As far as I'm concerned, the ends justify the means....and a crackdown on these Islamic fundamentalist cocksuckers has been a long time in coming. I only wish the scope was broader, and that the U.S. military would pummel Syria, Iran, and a few others while they are in the neighborhood.