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Old 10-11-04, 10:22 AM
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Thumbs down On the morning of 9/11? Bush supporters

On the morning of 9/11, the Carlyle Group, a huge investment company with longtime ties to the Bush family, the Saudi Arabian government, and the military industrial complex, was holding their annual investor conference at a hotel in Washington, D.C. Attendees included, among others, former President George H.W. Bush, James Baker (one again we see Baker one of W's old buddies from th Guard)(secretary of state under George H.W. Bush), and Shafiq bin Laden, Osama's half-brother, who was overseeing his family's investment in the Carlyle Group (the bin Ladens have since pulled out, as has George H.W. Bush).

Could the fact that the bin Ladens were investors in the Carlyle Group have affected the government's pursuit of Osama? How do you think the average American feels knowing Bush Sr. was working for a defense-oriented firm that has extensive business interests in Saudi Arabia while his son, Bush Jr. was preparing to wage war in Iraq?


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The Houston-based Halliburton Corporation has landed monstrous government contracts totaling billions of dollars during the ongoing Iraq war. Some argue the increasing trend by the government to delegate logistical operations to a single for-profit corporation ends up costing taxpayers more money rather than less. This practice dates back to the aftermath of the Persian Gulf War, when Brown and Root -- of which Halliburton is the parent company -- landed a contract. Cutbacks in military spending and a string of wars supposedly limit government resources, requiring "military outsourcing" to private companies like Halliburton. From 1995 to 2000, Dick Cheney served as Halliburton's chief executive, until he resigned to run for vice president. It was reported that Cheney sold most of his shares when he departed, but retained stock options worth roughly $8 million.

Why have some people expressed concern over the fact that Cheney was once a CEO for Halliburton, now the biggest single government contractor in Iraq? What do you think about the practice of hiring private companies to implement the U.S. government's support operations? How does the government justify the startling pay discrepancy between private workers and military personnel? How do you feel about private corporations profiting from the destruction of war?


This is not a pro kerry post. I hate him as well. I'm voting for Nader. At least then which ever of the two evils gets elected I can say I did my part.One more topic:
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Old 10-11-04, 09:00 PM
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Good post, people should read this, inquire about it, and respect it, not flame it.
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Old 10-12-04, 02:12 PM
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thanks for the response. People should try and get other sources of info other than what the major media tells them. Most of the major media all gives about a 10-45second blip of info.
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The Bin Ladin family denounced Osama years ago...
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Old 10-13-04, 07:05 AM
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private orginizations have always profited from government action. i served proudly during the first gulf war and during the last part of my time in i trained civilian contractors making 4 times the money i was making to do the same job. i have never and will never understand why this is. of course i have the same objection to officers making more than senior enlisted doing the same jobs as well but thats a different discussion all together. after Clinton singed a bill civilianizing my career field i then stepped out of he military and into the same seat doing the same job for 4 times the money for the same contractor. this practice has been going on for many years. funny how its being brought up like its a new development. some are just angry the money is not getting in there pockets. not saying its right or wrong just saying....
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Old 10-13-04, 07:09 AM
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Hmm thats why many of them still showed up to his sons wedding a year or so back.


How come we attack Iraq mostly based on the fact that they are muslim. But when the bush err bin laden family is accused the common bush lover response is " they denounced osama".


I don't think a muslim family would support the U.S. over there own blood. They might say this and say that. but talk is cheap.
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Old 10-13-04, 01:38 PM
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so now the cause of war is that they're Muslim? don't think so
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