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Old 12-17-04, 10:21 AM
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Question about Christmas

For those of you who don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate christmas? And if so, why? What are you celebrating?

No religious debates please, I just know some people around here in my life always talk about how much they love christmas and this time of year, they all exchange gifts, decorate their houses, but none are religious. It really confuses me.
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Old 12-17-04, 10:24 AM
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No. I don't celebrate it. My mother does, and I go to her house. But for me it is about visiting family and friends. I give gifts because it is expected, and because I believe it is an appropriate time to do so.
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Old 12-17-04, 10:26 AM
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No. I don't celebrate it. My mother does, and I go to her house. But for me it is about visiting family and friends. I give gifts because it is expected, and because I believe it is an appropriate time to do so.
fair enough. sounds like a good honest explanation.
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Old 12-17-04, 10:35 AM
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I'm the opposite - I believe in Jesus Christ and hate Christmas more than any of my nonreligious friends or anybody I know for that matter!
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Old 12-17-04, 10:37 AM
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I celebrate it cos we get public holidays here, and the exchanging of gifts is fun!
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Old 12-17-04, 10:42 AM
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To many christmas is no longer about jesus. It's about giving gifts. It might have originated from christ, but it's changed into something different.
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I'm not religious in any way. But I do exchange gifts, decorate the house (sometimes), and celebrate the (holiday season). I don't call it Christmas for the same reason I feel it's ok for me to celebrate. There is very little religion in the holidays anymore. I mean how did celebrating the birth of a religious icon turn into who can put the most crap on their house.

I went to my daughter school play and they no longer do anything that is religious at all. It's all Frosty and Santa.

The teacher said they don't want to offend non-Christians by involving religion. I almost fell over. It's a religious holiday how can you not involve religion?
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Old 12-17-04, 11:28 AM
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To many christmas is no longer about jesus. It's about giving gifts. It might have originated from christ, but it's changed into something different.
According to the Bible, the 3 wisemen brought gifts to Jesus when he was born. That his how giving gifts came into play, there is nothing new about that.
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No. I don't celebrate it. My mother does, and I go to her house. But for me it is about visiting family and friends. I give gifts because it is expected, and because I believe it is an appropriate time to do so.
yes im the same way my mom loves x-mas why i dont know probably cuzz of the family thing. but im to broke to give out gifts, i need to save for more GH
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The politically correct crap is really starting to get on my nerves...towns scrapping their nativity scenes, schools walking on eggshells...it's out of control. I think we Christians should give everyone else a dose of it, and scream bloody murder about being offended at the very mention of Hannuka, Ramadan, or any other religious celebration that is contrary to our beliefs. It's so bloody ridiculous.
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According to the Bible, the 3 wisemen brought gifts to Jesus when he was born. That his how giving gifts came into play, there is nothing new about that.
Yes, that's how it originated, but to many, they just like the idea of giving and receiving gifts. Even if they don't believe in the origin of the tradition. Kind of like how halloween originated from the idea of scaring away demons, but now it's just a big candy orgy for little kids. Easter is almost the same way too.
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It has just became the time of year for me to show others how important they are to me in my life. Most everyone I know believes in god and there celebrating the friends, family and good fortune god has given them over the year. I am the same, I just don't believe god did it.
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i celebrate but have no faith at all. i totally agree with the people who do it to see family and friends. At my parents house it have never been a religous thing, it is when we can all see each other since we are so far apart.
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Old 12-17-04, 10:18 PM
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Because I was raised to celebrate it. It is the socially acceptable thing to do.

My wife is Christian and her family consists of a bunch of Holy rollers. Keeping them off my ass by saying I do is enough.
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Christmas is about people coming together with their family and friends and showing them how much they love them, just like Thanksgiving. People eat to they bust and give each other fun presents to open and decorate.
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< set to a blues rhythm >

THE THREE KINGS AND I
(WHAT REALLY HAPPENED)

O Holy night
The stars are brightly shining
It is the night of our dear savior's birth

Now you all heard the story about Bethlehem
How the child was born and the three wise men
Heard the preacher tell it like the preacher does
But let me tell you, children,
That's not how it was

Now you might ask me what I'm talking about
But I know the part that they all left out

Now do you hear what I said
That Herod wanted those wise men dead
But on that blessed evening
My great great great great great great granddad
He saved those kings

Now granddad made his living
Playing jazz you see
But jazz wasn't big around one A.D.
So he got himself a job in the palace band
Where he heard about three kings
In the desert sand

Let me tell you children that at any time
Three kings in the desert that's a real rare find

But Herod heard of it too
And when he heard his curiosity grew
So he asked those kings to drop by
And my great great great great great great
Granddad
He wondered why

So the Magi told old Herod
That they had come here
To find a newborn king of kings
Who'd heal our sins
Then herod told his guards
To follow those Magi
And that the only king around here
Was gonna' be him

Then he told his soldiers as I recall
When they found that child, to kill them all
But granddad overheard what Herod said
And he had to act fast or else they'd all be dead

So granddad got to those kings
Filled them in on the plan, told them everything
When they heard what he had in store
They grabbed the gold
The frankincense
The myrrh, the jewels
The desert tents
And when they found
His plan was sound
They followed granddad out the back door

And what a night
It must have been
But when God is on your side
You kinda' know that in the end
You're gonna win

They traveled fast
They traveled far
And in the end they found
That they were standing with the Child
Beneath the star

Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

And so you see we've reached the end
Of our story
When granddad and the kings
Reached that stable on the hill
And while I said that
Three kings in the desert is a rare sight
Angels singing in the desert that's far rarer still

Now I ain't sayin' that the bible was wrong
But ya' see the whole tale
Would have taken too long
'Cause way back then in the promised land
Every copy they sold,
It had to be written by hand

And granddad lived a long life
Stayed friends with those kings
And found a good wife
And eventually I came along
But that my children
That my children
That's another song


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Old 12-18-04, 09:34 PM
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The politically correct crap is really starting to get on my nerves...towns scrapping their nativity scenes, schools walking on eggshells...it's out of control. I think we Christians should give everyone else a dose of it, and scream bloody murder about being offended at the very mention of Hannuka, Ramadan, or any other religious celebration that is contrary to our beliefs. It's so bloody ridiculous.
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Old 12-20-04, 08:31 AM
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I think there is 2 sides to Christmas... I think it has totally commercialized and become this totally separate thing from the religious part. In my house we celebrate both... we talk about Jesus and his birth and how lucky we are to be born and what it means to be a good christian person. Then we have lights and a tree and presents and decorations. It's like a totally separate thing.
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I think there is 2 sides to Christmas... I think it has totally commercialized and become this totally separate thing from the religious part. In my house we celebrate both... we talk about Jesus and his birth and how lucky we are to be born and what it means to be a good christian person. Then we have lights and a tree and presents and decorations. It's like a totally separate thing.
Our family always prays before the gifts get opened to remind everyone what the season is about! It turns into a cry fest for the adults because they always remember the loved ones we have lost and the family members that are serving our country elsewhere and couldn't be there! The kids go crazy with the toys and then argue about who got the best one and they won't share with the other kids! I'll be glad when it is over!
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