titus - ufc?!?

[hlcn8]

so i'm at this show last night, and the emcee announced, while titus was handing out awards, that he's gonna start entering ufc fights...

no doubt he's a big mofo, but i wonder if he can take 20 hits to the head and keep going?

btw, him and darrem were frikkin HUGE, seriously made me feel inferior for, well, for now on...

btw, kelly ryan can friggin MOVE, damn!

[THE BOUNCER]

this is from his site..

"In the June edition of Musclemag International , Phil Baroni (UFC fighter) states that Phil himself, and his buddy Stevie "D" offered to put up $20,000 each of their own money to promote a fight between Phil and myself. Well, this is the FIRST time I've ever heard anything about promoting a fight between us. I'm saying it right now; I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO TAKE THIS FIGHT! I compete in the New York Pro Show on May 21st and I will gladly get into the ring anytime in August of 2005, just name the place, period. So Phil and Stevie, let me know how much money we're talking about. No more talk!

For all my fans, stay tuned for my next Titus Talks where I will respond in great detail in regard to this subject."

TItus

[blm]

That would be cool to see him get his ass stomped by lil' fella.

[CreepingDeath]

this should be funny lol

[Primal Instinct]

Being huge doesn't necessarily make a person a great fighter nor a serious physical threat. It's a popular misconception. We all have vulnerabilities such as knee and elbow joints which can be locked into some painful locks and submission moves. I would assume that Titus would start by trying the striker type attack but would be highly vulnerable to either a chokeout or at least a tapout after a quick takedown. I doubt he could handle groundfighting very long, if at all. He's over his head.




Here's some Baroni info and stats. He's no wuss and does this stuff for a living. Check out the rest of the site as well. It has some cool fight pics and vids on it.

Phil Baroni

[hlcn8]

Originally posted by Primal Instinct
Being huge doesn't necessarily make a person a great fighter nor a serious physical threat. It's a popular misconception. We all have vulnerabilities such as knee and elbow joints which can be locked into some painful locks and submission moves. I would assume that Titus would start by trying the striker type attack but would be highly vulnerable to either a chokeout or at least a tapout after a quick takedown. I doubt he could handle groundfighting very long, if at all. He's over his head.

a little mis-interpreted, but i agree!

i didn't mean his size would make him a great fighter bro! his strength is definitely an asset however, but probably not at all a significant one against a pro who knows how to work joints, submission moves, and ESPECIALLY ground fighting.

i'm not aware of titus having any significant injuries over the years, but i know a lot of bodybuilders have joint problems... i'm willing to bet this could be far more of a vulnerability than he knows.

and if he doesn't have any lasting weaknesses due to injuries, he could sure as hell obtain some! my knees are partially fucked due to years of grappling, and all it takes is one impact at a funny angle...

[Primal Instinct]

^ I didn't mean the size misconception thing applied to your post, hlcn8. I was speaking in a more of a general public-type observation.

Titus would have to hope for a 1-hit knockout or something but I feel he would be too slow in that regard anyhow. Full-contact fighters are well aware of reach limitations and generally would work around behind (or to the side of) an opponent for a takedown anyhow.

IF this fight ever takes place, I'd bet that it would probably end within 4 minutes or so and either in a tapout/chokeout or an elbow/ankle lock. Titus would have to be aware of the complications of a joint injury on his current career and submit quickly once he's on the receiving end. If Titus was actually capable of embarrassment, he wouldn't accept a fight with Baroni.

[mcalo4]

I think titus will get his ass kicked.
Any guy with a six pack and cauliflower ear is someone you probably dont want to tangle with.

[ugetsum]

Baroni is a better standup fighter than ground fighter IMO. He'll knock Titus out within 2 min. Titus is a freakin clown if he thinks he can last with these guys. It's what they do and have done for a living for a long time!! If Titus really takes the fight, Baroni will destroy him!

[THE BOUNCER]

The last I saw of phil baroni was when he was getting his ass beat by evan tanner. phil didnt even fight back.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally posted by mcalo4
I think titus will get his ass kicked.
Any guy with a six pack and cauliflower ear is someone you probably dont want to tangle with.

thats funny you say that thats the first thing i look at (ears) when sizein someone up. i can fight a lil standin up but on the ground no chance for me.

[Primal Instinct]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
The last I saw of phil baroni was when he was getting his ass beat by evan tanner. phil didnt even fight back.

Yeah but Titus is no Evan Tanner. There are also "fixes" in these fights (at least the UFC) sometimes. I personally knew one of the fighters involved in one.


Great fight vids at www.sherdog.com

[jyzza]

Phil Baroni is not that good....Yes he is a UFC fighter but he gets his ass kicked most of the time....

[njjuicer]

whatever the case may be ive persoanlyl never seen titus fight if sumoen got the "ko" they got it weather hes a good fighter or not that will be yet to seen but who knows titus might merc that dude up but granter ppl think tha tjust b/c your hgue u can fuck shit up but as msot of us know tis a fuckin joke lol

[beefcake]

I'd like to see what happens when you try to put a guy as strong as titus in a submission hold. I'd say if baroni stays away and just tags him up then he may stand a chance, if he tries to lock up with him then he's done.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally posted by njjuicer
ppl think tha tjust b/c your hgue u can fuck shit up but as msot of us know tis a fuckin joke lol

thats something small people say.

[Primal Instinct]

Originally posted by beefcake
I'd like to see what happens when you try to put a guy as strong as titus in a submission hold. I'd say if baroni stays away and just tags him up then he may stand a chance, if he tries to lock up with him then he's done.

Joint locks work on a person of any size because it is a bodyweight/leverage thing applied to the tendons and ligaments. Akido is an excellent example of this principle. There is a wristlock dubbed "the hook" that I taught a huge bouncer friend of mine once after he dealt with a major altercation at the bar he worked in. He was probably around 265 @ 6'1" tall and strong as an ox. I had him take a swing at me and I put "the hook" on him and he was in quite considerable pain. To make the point of the effectiveness about joint locks, I forced him out the door and around the parking lot before bringing him back into the building. He didn't like it but it made the point, lol.


I realize the strength that Titus has but knowledge and experience trump strength. My bouncer friend was much heavier and stronger than I was but experience and technique won out. Anyone who has been on the receiving end of a properly applied joint lock knows the intense pain that can be applied and would think somewhat differently about it afterwards.


Baroni may be a mid-level fighter in UFC standards but against a non-experienced opponent (even a huge person like Titus), he would prevail in his home environment. Obviously HE thinks so or he certainly wouldn't have made the fight offer for Titus @ the combined 40k bet from his side.

[njlovehandles]

I cant wait to see that him get his ass kicked. Maybe he finaly realized he is a shitty BB.

[njjuicer]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
thats something small people say.

anytime any place wise guy

[Gods Son]

LOL Titus??? Mike Tyson couldnt even compete with those guys.... Hes big... i know lots of huge punks,i mean most guys get into weights cause of being well you know inferior....

[hlcn8]

yeah, strength means little in a joint lock, it's all about the 'lever-arm' and the things you learned in high school physics. throwing a wrist lock on him is like taking a wrench to a soda bottle lid, it'll easily win and can just as easily do a lot of damage.

i'm sure titus has connections however that'll give him one hell of a crash course, still, i wouldn't put money on him if my life depended on it.

[Mr incredible]

Wouldn't it be funny if after all this bullshit conjecture about Baroni's locking ability, ground work skills etc Titus beat him

IE "THE BIGGER GUY WON"

I don't pretend to be some expert but I have had a few fights in my time working as a doorman/bouncer on a weekend (which I no-longer do since I got engaged), and time after time I've had some loud mouth with a physique like a streak of piss in my face raving on about what he's going to do to me or had boxers (lighter than me) or squaddies (soldiers) trying to intimidate me with all that military training stuff. One good punch to the jaw and they are usually seeing stars, laid out on the floor.

Size doesn't win a fight on its own but if both fighters have some clue what they are doing, the bigger guy will win.

If it get staged , my money would be on titus.

[beefcake]

I know what you guys are saying as far as once baroni gets titus in a submission hold, i'm saying what will happen during the time that baroni is trying to get him in the hold. Wouldn't titus just be able to rip out of baroni's grip before he executes the lock and then probably pick him up and slam the shit out of him on the mat?

[Mr incredible]

Originally posted by beefcake
I know what you guys are saying as far as once baroni gets titus in a submission hold, i'm saying what will happen during the time that baroni is trying to get him in the hold. Wouldn't titus just be able to rip out of baroni's grip before he executes the lock and then probably pick him up and slam the shit out of him on the mat?

Yup

Bodybuilders do well at grapple AND JUDO BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH close quarters strength