2005 MUSTANG GT

[GreekTank]

Bros I test drove this baby yesterday, what a ride! powerfull! I'm not too crazy about it's looks though. The dealer had 87 octane gas in it, should have been 94 octane would have been more fun!

[NYCmitch25]

Nice that car is hot! I think im going to test drive Mustang Cover. and the Mustang Shelby GT 500.
I love the old skool look. The critics have been buzzing about that car.

http://www.allsportauto.com/english/...17&zl_idMD=791

http://www.allsportauto.com/english/...29&zl_idMD=791

http://www.allsportauto.com/english/...lby_gt_500.php

[GreekTank]

That's better looking

[Matt76]

I dunno hell my dad owns a for dealership and I own a camaro z28 if that tells ya anything. If I had to choose guys go buy a 2002 SS. I think the looks are great and they out power the GT's no problem

[blm]

It looks great w/a suspension kit and new wheels, but it's still a Ford

[hitmansb]

The Shelby looks bad-ass.

[BBAddict]

I'm not a big fan of new Fords either, but that new Shelby looks bad--and 450hp, damn! Watch out, keep your kids off the streets when I get my hands on that car!

[damon_achey]

Originally posted by GreekTank
Bros I test drove this baby yesterday, what a ride! powerfull! I'm not too crazy about it's looks though. The dealer had 87 octane gas in it, should have been 94 octane would have been more fun!

Actually the lower the octain the more power you get out of the fuel. Octane retards ignition and is used to prevent high compression engines from pinging. The reason average octanes have been going up over the years is that car makers are using higher compression engines than they used to. But using the least octane that doesn't ping in your engine will result in the most power. Obviously don't go lower than the manual for your vehicle instructs you to.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/gasoline3.htm

[BBAddict]

Originally posted by damon_achey
Actually the lower the octain the more power you get out of the fuel.

Interesting, sounds like a good project for those science mythbusters guys.

[Puddles]

Originally posted by BBAddict
Interesting, sounds like a good project for those science mythbusters guys.

Cool show.

I need to test drive the new Mustang.

[redneck99]

yeah, that shelby cobra is badass! maybe one day I could afford a pimp ride like that!

[BBAddict]

Originally posted by Puddles
I need to test drive the new Mustang.

Wait for the Shelby-it'll be worth it! When you feel 450horses under you, you'll know it was worth the wait!

[beefcake]

Originally posted by damon_achey
Actually the lower the octain the more power you get out of the fuel. Octane retards ignition and is used to prevent high compression engines from pinging. The reason average octanes have been going up over the years is that car makers are using higher compression engines than they used to. But using the least octane that doesn't ping in your engine will result in the most power. Obviously don't go lower than the manual for your vehicle instructs you to.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/gasoline3.htm

Really. Can you post anything to back up this claim? Cause from everything i've read and seen, higher octane fuel contains more oxygen molecules which will produce a more efficient burn and dyno tests have shown higher octain to create a tad more power. Here's one article i've seen.

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/72498/

[beefcake]

I'd feel a little let down since the shelby is getting the same engine as the ford gt but doesn't have the same 500hp. What's up with that?

[pierced one]

Originally posted by beefcake
Really. Can you post anything to back up this claim? Cause from everything i've read and seen, higher octane fuel contains more oxygen molecules which will produce a more efficient burn and dyno tests have shown higher octain to create a tad more power. Here's one article i've seen.

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/72498/

if you read in that article they are advancing the timing with each pull also. THey call this flash timing when on the dyno. guys use this to bullshit the printout. you are both actually saying kind of the same thing. higher octane prevents detonation which increases horsepower, and with HOT ROD advancing the timing they are compensating for the allowance octane increase will allow in degrees of total timing. More timing without detonation= horsepower.

[beefcake]

Originally posted by pierced one
if you read in that article they are advancing the timing with each pull also. THey call this flash timing when on the dyno. guys use this to bullshit the printout. you are both actually saying kind of the same thing. higher octane prevents detonation which increases horsepower, and with HOT ROD advancing the timing they are compensating for the allowance octane increase will allow in degrees of total timing. More timing without detonation= horsepower.

Originally posted by pierced one
if you read in that article they are advancing the timing with each pull also. THey call this flash timing when on the dyno. guys use this to bullshit the printout. you are both actually saying kind of the same thing. higher octane prevents detonation which increases horsepower, and with HOT ROD advancing the timing they are compensating for the allowance octane increase will allow in degrees of total timing. More timing without detonation= horsepower.

True they played with the timing on each run, but if you notice, they started at 31 degrees on each pull and then advanced more from there. So how is it that 31 degrees of advance on 94 octane produced more power than 87 octane on 36 degrees? As well as most of the other tests at 31 degrees?

With the timing set conservatively at 31 degrees BTDC, the sturdy 360 surpassed the best 87-octane numbers by 2 hp and 5 lb-ft

100 Octane unleaded we began with the 31-degree setting to maintain consistency and to see if any noteworthy patterns emerged. The dyno video monitor flashed just over 400 hp

114 Octane we rang up our highest numbers yet at the 31-degree setting.

[CiViC SpiKeS]

Nice ride... i usually dont like stangs but i like that one...

Still couldnt get me to buy one though... really not my style

[wnabeabeast]

Originally posted by beefcake
I'd feel a little let down since the shelby is getting the same engine as the ford gt but doesn't have the same 500hp. What's up with that?

Actually it is not the same engine.GT uses aluminum block and dry-sump oiling and a screw type super charger.and it is to expensive.Shelby's engine is iron block aluminum head,four valve and roots type super charger.almost same as the old cobra engine but bored to be 5.4 liters.

[NYCmitch25]

Originally posted by CiViC SpiKeS
Nice ride... i usually dont like stangs but i like that one...

Still couldnt get me to buy one though... really not my style

I am a fan of the STI subie

I have an S2000.
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...rDetected=True

However theres just something about the new Mustang -Shelby edt.- I cant put my finger on it. It could be its Dumb American muscle kick your teeth in power no holds bar badass. No mistake about it the car is all cock & balls. Nothing femine about it...Get outta my way look to it. You wont see soccer mom getting the grocieries with it...unless shes cool - LOL!

[CiViC SpiKeS]

S2K's awesome rides too... love em... How do you deal with the two seats though... it would drive me nuts

I love STi's 4 doors 4 seats AWD... No problem.. and ur Hauling ass

[beefcake]

Originally posted by wnabeabeast
Actually it is not the same engine.GT uses aluminum block and dry-sump oiling and a screw type super charger.and it is to expensive.Shelby's engine is iron block aluminum head,four valve and roots type super charger.almost same as the old cobra engine but bored to be 5.4 liters.

Actually they both use the 5.4l block, just one is aluminum and one isn't. You can't bore and stroke the 4.6l to 5.4l cause there isn't enough clearance between the water jackets and the block skirt. They both use a screw type blower. And both use the same 4v heads. So there really is no reason why it can't produce the same numbers.

[NYCmitch25]

Originally posted by CiViC SpiKeS
S2K's awesome rides too... love em... How do you deal with the two seats though... it would drive me nuts

I love STi's 4 doors 4 seats AWD... No problem.. and ur Hauling ass

All I need is my gym bag...? =) Plus theirs nothing like hitting the town in convertible on a summer night. The S is a sports bike on 4 wheels.

I also have a CRV w/AWD 4doors 4seats. Sometimes It still is a pain in the ass not having the seats. Always takin two rides when you meet up with ppl... etc. etc.

I hope you get the STI. Post the pics when you do.

[JUICE]

i want a black one, convertible, some 20 inch cobra r chrome, roll bar. Hopefully if i start my new job im after i'll get one.

[wnabeabeast]

Originally posted by beefcake
Actually they both use the 5.4l block, just one is aluminum and one isn't. You can't bore and stroke the 4.6l to 5.4l cause there isn't enough clearance between the water jackets and the block skirt. They both use a screw type blower. And both use the same 4v heads. So there really is no reason why it can't produce the same numbers.

I got my info from motor trend magazine and you are right about bore and stroke.but they there is a huge power production difference between roots and screw type of blower.as I am typing this I am looking at one of my old Muscle Mustangs magazine they did a simple swap on a cobra they took out the stock Eaton blower and installed screw type one and the power jumped to 360hp rear wheels to 475hp to the wheels and couple go fast parts like new chip bigger throttle body and some headers power jumped to mind blowing 708hp to the flywheel.and the engine internally was stock.

This the 9/03 issue of the Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords.

Article is much more detailed.I just tried to give some short info.

[NYCmitch25]

Originally posted by JUICE
i want a black one, convertible, some 20 inch cobra r chrome, roll bar. Hopefully if i start my new job im after i'll get one.