Genetics and race

[beefcake]

I'm not racist so hopefully no one tries to pull that card. However, I have noticed that different races show different genetic potential. I've noticed that african americans usually have very good physiques even though they don't workout. Asians usually don't have as much muscle mass. Caucasians and latinos are usually in between. Not saying this is everyone, but just seems like the majority. I don't know if it's because one race has higher levels of testosterone or higher levels of estrogen that causes this, perhaps certain races have more fast twitch or slow twitch muscle fibers, or is it just genetics in general? Not saying that one has to work any more or less harder than the other, but it just makes me wonder sometimes.

[Timma]

I know that in many african americans they have that gene that blocks estrogen or whatever it is. That's why they can easily gain muscle. I also have noticed there are not many asians that can gain muscle. I totally see what you are getting at and no it's not racist.

[therock]

I am Latin and I have noticed exactly what you just said. I think latins have big shoulders and back, asians have lean build, caulcasin tend to have big arms and legs, and africans tend to have either lean build, or just straight out mass monsters. I hope no one takes to offend, I am just sharing what I notice at my gym and other gyms I have been to.

[BBAddict]

Look at the Mr. Olympia or the Arnold--how many Asians or even white guys are there compared to Africans Americans? There's clearly something there, but I don't know what it is!

[JUICE]

Originally Posted by therock

I am Latin and I have noticed exactly what you just said. I think latins have big shoulders and back, asians have lean build, caulcasin tend to have big arms and legs, and africans tend to have either lean build, or just straight out mass monsters. I hope no one takes to offend, I am just sharing what I notice at my gym and other gyms I have been to.

very true, i say the same thing.

Ive seen black guys that are just overall muscular, i wish i had those genes. Asians Ive seen not so tall nor muscular. White people Ive seen the majority have huge calves and forearms. As for me, i guess i was born tall and big built. But the majority of hispanics here in my city which are 90% they are between 5'5'' and 5'10'', with medium thick builts.

[spidey]

The majority of hispanics in my area are Mexican and most are very short (5'2" to 5'5") and 120 to 140 lbs. The ones who go to my gym are a bit more stocky of course. Most Black people in my gym are extremely well built but they work hard at it too. My friend Jake (black) is 6'0" and 245 lbs. He benches 405 for sets of 15. He is all natural too but he has been asking questions about AAS recently. I can't wait to see what he can do with AAS, LOL. The white people in my gym range all over the place from fat slobs to well built.

[JUICE]

Originally Posted by spidey

The majority of hispanics in my area are Mexican and most are very short (5'2" to 5'5") and 120 to 140 lbs. The ones who go to my gym are a bit more stocky of course. .

Something Ive noticed from hispanics, mostly people from Mexico are that they are short 5'2-5'5'' and the same weight that you described it. But Ive seen some tall mofos and huge. Something ive paid attention is that some are of mexican decent but also have american decent. Would this make them bigger than the average mexican. I got cousins who are over 6 feet. One is 6'4'' around 220. Got another one on my moms side whos 6 feet around 280 solid, he's just a big guy not fat.

[beefcake]

Originally Posted by JUICE

Something Ive noticed from hispanics, mostly people from Mexico are that they are short 5'2-5'5'' and the same weight that you described it. But Ive seen some tall mofos and huge. Something ive paid attention is that some are of mexican decent but also have american decent. Would this make them bigger than the average mexican. I got cousins who are over 6 feet. One is 6'4'' around 220. Got another one on my moms side whos 6 feet around 280 solid, he's just a big guy not fat.

Possible that the culprit is higher estrogen levels. That's what they say is what limits the growth of women, very possible that asians and mexicans have higher levels. Technically mexicans are part indian, and indian did migrate from asia so who knows. Mixing in the caucasian or whatever may keep the levels to be not as high as they would be.

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by beefcake

Possible that the culprit is higher estrogen levels. That's what they say is what limits the growth of women, very possible that asians and mexicans have higher levels. Technically mexicans are part indian, and indian did migrate from asia so who knows. Mixing in the caucasian or whatever may keep the levels to be not as high as they would be.

Has anyone ever heard that African's were bred to be the best physical beings for the last 500-600 years. Hell - even Chris Rock talked about that in his latest stand-up comedy show.

[Stonecold54]

Originally Posted by fog_hat1981

Has anyone ever heard that African's were bred to be the best physical beings for the last 500-600 years. Hell - even Chris Rock talked about that in his latest stand-up comedy show.

in a sense natural selection had more to offer for a longer period of time to the african culutures and to some extent south america. They were less enlightened as far as technology but they developed their physical skills well beyond the normal human. The "white" man while cultured sooner started on a road to laziness living in his castles in Europe. I believe in the next 100 years most of the races will dissapear and blend into one taking all the characteristics of them. Its also why white men can't jump. The tendon attachment in most black men makes it possible to produce explosive power.

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by stonecold54

in a sense natural selection had more to offer for a longer period of time to the african culutures and to some extent south america. They were less enlightened as far as technology but they developed their physical skills well beyond the normal human. The "white" man while cultured sooner started on a road to laziness living in his castles in Europe. I believe in the next 100 years most of the races will dissapear and blend into one taking all the characteristics of them. Its also why white men can't jump. The tendon attachment in most black men makes it possible to produce explosive power.

Very good point bro - I was watching some show on Discovery last night that showed a white man living with African tribes - it was VERY interesting - I've forgotten the name but it was way cool. The tribesmen were very built and strong - they had stick fighting that was absolutely brutal...

[Megiddo]

Ok kids, allow prof. Megiddo to give you all a quick lesson in cultural genetics.

Every ethnicity has distinct physical variations from other human groups. These variations are the reason these groups have survived to this today. Look at skin color for example. Africans in the center and southern regions of the continent are darker skinned than their counterparts in the north. Why is this? A reaction to the exposure of sunlight. take that into consideration in regards to north Europeans compared to southern Europeans. South has more sun than the North. Reaction to the exposure, or lack thereof,sunlight. Understand how environment shapes us so far?

Now when we look at physiology, Compare a Bantu farmer to a Russian farmer. The Bantu farmer lives in a dry hot environment. In order to survive, he needs to be able to regulate his body heat. Because of that he will be tall, these guys are on average above 6'5, and lean with little bodyfat. He is adapted to his environment and will produce offspring with the same genetic code and so on and so forth. Now take into account the Russian farmer. While he may be tall, 5'10-6'2, he is thick with a good proportion of bodyfat. This is because he too lives in a hostile environment and the stocky frame and layer of baodyfat will keep him warm on cold days working in the fields. By this you can assume his ancestors were large "fat" people.

Now take these people and switch their environments, will they survive without modern convieninces? I highly doubt it.

That is the main reason differing "races" have such differing bodytypes. Asians are small because those that could live off of low calorie intake survived while thos that couldn't starved. Mexicans are short because their ancestors lived in a desert environment with little food and water sources. Therefore the ones who needed less water to survived lived while those that didn't died out.

Now let us go to Black Americans. Here is a little tricky thing. Now most atheletes are black, most black guys have great physiques and have never touched a weight set. Is there a reason for this? Yes. Is it some estrogen blocker in their system? No. The reason is quite simple. Africans, for about 400 years, were slaves. Up until the 1800's when people clamored for abolition, when slaves were needed, you just went to Africa, paid a warlord for his enemy prisoners and you had some slaves. Around 1830 or so, slave importation was banned in the U.S. This led to some asshole to try and make money off of the situation and the end result was basically breeding the biggest, strongest slave to the healthiest, fittest slave woman. Kinda like work animals becasue at that time period that was what they were considered. Thus you got big strong field hands that could work long hours and endure very harsh conditions. Remember that slavery was only abolished 140 years ago. Not very long ago. AS a side note, if anyone remembers how all of the good black atheletes were usually passed by their teachers becasue they couldn't make the grades? Well the asshole who thought of breeding people like horses also realized it is better to have a dumb jacked up slave instead of one who was smart. Therefore they made sure that the "smart niggas" were not introduced into the gene pool.

Any questions, pm me.