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Old 01-23-06, 03:57 PM
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Liddell vs. Couture 3.....who wins?

Who's your pick? I'm undecided.....
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Old 01-23-06, 04:34 PM
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If couture does what he did the first time and just clinch and throw liddell all over the ring and actually take him to the ground, then I say couture, if he tries to stand with him or if liddell stabs him in the eye again, then I say chuck takes it. I think randy will get smart this time and take liddell down to the mat. I say randy takes his belt back.
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Old 01-23-06, 04:42 PM
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If Liddell can stay on his feet i think it will be all him if not Randy has it. Im a huge Liddell fan so i hope he retains it.
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Couture wont win this.

Their 1st fight Randy was coming off 2 losses, dropping a wieght class, and turning 40.
Chuck was coming off an 11 win streak and had basically beaten everyone there was to beat.
Everyone including the UFC thought this would be an easy fight for Chuck and he would go on to face Tito for the title.

My point is that i dont care what Chuck says, he took Randy lightly, and gave him no respect......in the 2nd fight Chuck knew what he was up against and what Randy was capable of and he took care of business. Chuck will never come unprepared against someone like Randy again.
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Old 01-23-06, 06:13 PM
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Couture wont win this.

Their 1st fight Randy was coming off 2 losses, dropping a wieght class, and turning 40.
Chuck was coming off an 11 win streak and had basically beaten everyone there was to beat.
Everyone including the UFC thought this would be an easy fight for Chuck and he would go on to face Tito for the title.

My point is that i dont care what Chuck says, he took Randy lightly, and gave him no respect......in the 2nd fight Chuck knew what he was up against and what Randy was capable of and he took care of business. Chuck will never come unprepared against someone like Randy again.
Off topic, but would you say the same applies for his match with quinton jackson?
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Off topic, but would you say the same applies for his match with quinton jackson?

Id say a healthy Chuck would beat a healthy Rampage. I dont think Chuck under estimated him but Chuck was definitely out of shape, looked tired and hurt from the beggining of the fight. I believe he was fighting with a pulled hamstring or groin or something. He coulda been tired from the fact that Pride has 10 minute 1st round, or the traveling to Japan or what. Rampage fights in Japan (or used to) regularly.
Since that fight with Rampage, Chuck has never looked better cardio wise and aggressivness.
But not to take anything away from Quinton, he messed Chuck up that night.
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Id say a healthy Chuck would beat a healthy Rampage. I dont think Chuck under estimated him but Chuck was definitely out of shape, looked tired and hurt from the beggining of the fight. I believe he was fighting with a pulled hamstring or groin or something. He coulda been tired from the fact that Pride has 10 minute 1st round, or the traveling to Japan or what. Rampage fights in Japan (or used to) regularly.
Since that fight with Rampage, Chuck has never looked better cardio wise and aggressivness.
But not to take anything away from Quinton, he messed Chuck up that night.
I see what you're saying, but I still feel chuck falls to good ground game. If couture and horn had took him to the ground, I think chuck wouldn't have won. It's stupid to stand with chuck, I think randy has realized that.
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I see what you're saying, but I still feel chuck falls to good ground game. If couture and horn had took him to the ground, I think chuck wouldn't have won. It's stupid to stand with chuck, I think randy has realized that.
Yeah the ground is where to beat him for sure. But Chuck has the best takedown defense in the sport. Even in Chuck/Randy 1, Randy was able to get him down a few times but couldnt keep him down long enough to do any damage. Chuck finds a way to either avoid being taken down in the first place or once he is down he finds a way to get back up before his opponent can solidify a position to mount an offense from the ground. The only way Randy was able to keep Chuck down was after he wore him out on their feet for 3 rounds.

In the first fight Chuck had no side to side movement, he just moved straight back which made it easier for Randy to time the takedown....in the 2nd fight Chuck learned his lesson and had a lot of side to side movement and that made it hard for Randy to get into a clinch and try for a takedown.....once Randy finally got a clinch he got clocked with a left hook and then got KO'd seconds later.
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I gotta go with Liddell, he's younger and has more confidence now.
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Randy...I just bought the pay per view from comcast Can't wait.....But the fight I'm trying to get tickets for, is the Gracie vs. Hughes....Now that will be one hell of a fight....
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Randy...I just bought the pay per view from comcast Can't wait.....But the fight I'm trying to get tickets for, is the Gracie vs. Hughes....Now that will be one hell of a fight....

Dude tickets go on sale saturday for frank shamrock vs. ceasar gracie for march 10 here in san jose....im going to that for sure!
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Dude tickets go on sale saturday for frank shamrock vs. ceasar gracie for march 10 here in san jose....im going to that for sure!
Been waiting for this for a long time. I hope frank ends ceaser's undefeated streak, but I doubt that will happen. No disrespect to ceaser, I just like frank.
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Well I will tell you who Vegas thinks will win.

Current odds are:

Chuck Liddell -186
Randy Couture +171



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Well I will tell you who Vegas thinks will win.

Current odds are:

Chuck Liddell -186
Randy Couture +171



If you dont know how this works, let me know.
Who cares what they think....It's last man standing what counts....Will be an awesome fight and will stay in that night to watch it on PPV.
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Well I will tell you who Vegas thinks will win.

Current odds are:

Chuck Liddell -186
Randy Couture +171



If you dont know how this works, let me know.
Tell me if this is right....

If you bet on Chuck you have to bet $186 to win $100 if he wins.

If you put $100 on Randy and he wins then you get $171

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Man I have both of their first 2 fights on dvd, and its like day and night compareing the 2.
The 1st fight Chuck was like a lost puppy.....didnt know what the f*ck was going on. No one knew how Randy was gonna preform at 205 lbs, coming off 2 losses and turning 40. Randy knew what Chuck was gonna bring to that fight, but no one knew how Randy would preform. So Randy had the advantage over Chuck.

The 2nd fight, all cards were on the table. Randy knew Chuck was gonna come at his best and he knew what Chuck had at his best.....Chuck now had seen Randy fight 3 times at 205 and knew what to expect.....both fighters came in good shape, healthy and aggressive and it was lights out for Randy....I just cant see Randy doing anything that Chuck cant counter with a left hook.

Randy likes to stalk, push the action, move forward....Chuck is a counter fighter, Randy's style plays right into Chucks hands. Randy should let Chuck move forward, let Chuck come after him and then shoot in for the double. Thats the best way to take Chuck down is to let HIM commit to moveing forward, and catch him off balance when you shoot in for the takedown.
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Randy likes to stalk, push the action, move forward....Chuck is a counter fighter, Randy's style plays right into Chucks hands. Randy should let Chuck move forward, let Chuck come after him and then shoot in for the double. Thats the best way to take Chuck down is to let HIM commit to moveing forward, and catch him off balance when you shoot in for the takedown.
Wow! Randy must have read this post....this is a copy/paste from mmaweekly interview with Randy....

MMAWeekly: It’s obvious. We’ve all seen the tape. You got out boxed by Liddell in the last fight. What have you done that you can show us to change the outcome of the fight, to not get caught stepping straight in or whatever? What have you been doing differently this time with your stand up game?

Couture: Well, obviously working a lot on protecting myself better, keeping my left hand up and in position. I think the biggest thing for me is patience. Chuck has to bring this fight. He’s standing there holding the belt, so I need to go out and establish myself in the middle of the octagon and make Chuck come to me and not chase him. Not try to run him down. Be patient, keep pressure on him, but not over commit. Not get careless and over commit.
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What a great apetizer before the Super Bowl!
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Guess we'll see if the training randy's done with arlovski will give his striking game for bite or not. Got a cool weekend coming up for sure.
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cant wait for the fight, I think Couture/strikes/3rd round
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The Riggs Diaz match will be awesoem as well...The loser has a real mid career crisis
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I was watching the Spike build up last night, Chuck hands are way too fast for Randy, Randy won't expose himself or get so riled up this time. The way I see it UFC is now a take down and submit/choke/elbow game thats what works best and if its done right the stand up guy will ooose every trime. theres nobody better than Randy for the take down, HE WINS!
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