Are you this stupid?

[hlcn8]

http://www.stupidity.org/video/690

Are so many people really so insulated from world affairs that they don't know even the simplest of answers?

how many world wars have there been? Answer: 3

What state does KFC come from? Answer: I don't know

Where's the west bank? Answer: The east coast

[njjuicer]

iid consider us in the 3rd world war now but the others are quite dumb

[blm]

Originally Posted by njjuicer

iid consider us in the 3rd world war now

If we we're in a 'world war' we wouldn't have the opportunity to be blessed to read your truly enlightening comments. What a goober!

[Shibby]

even though war hasn't been declared, I still would say were in a third world war.

[blm]

I think that's rediculous. Maybe on the brink of a 3rd world war, but no way IMO could we claim to be in one. Now maybe if we were to go up against China and nukes started flying, but at this point were merely spreading ourselves thin in scattered conflicts.

[Shibby]

What would you call this war? The US, GB, Iraq, Isreal, Lebanon war? You also have a few other european contries backing up the US, Iran and Syria are supplying hezbolah with weapons. The Iranian president says "The only way this war can end is if Isreal is destroyed". Then you have the Venazuelan president meating with Iran and making his alliance there...

[blm]

I call it conflicts going on in multiple regions or mulitple wars going on in various parts of the world. The US is not directly at war w/anybody, but we are occupying territories and unnecessarily losing American lives from random attacks. I guess it depends on what you would call a world war. Kind of like Vietnam. Personally, I think when we can truly declare WW III, we will be worrying about the termination of modern civilization. Which I don't think will be too far away if the Bush administration is allowed to continue its path of terrorism.

[Shibby]

It seems we look at it a little different, but not completely different.

[snowshark84]

Hey, don't forget about Canada, we just had four people killed the other day over in the east.

[Shibby]

Very true, Canada also had some islamic terrorist plotting to blow something up there not too long ago.

[DS-COUSIN]

"I don't know the answer to this question, but I'm thinking. Believe me." LMAO!

KFC one was comedy.

Where is the West Bank? ANswer: Eastcoast..HAHAHAHAHA

Idiots!

[njjuicer]

Originally Posted by blm

I call it conflicts going on in multiple regions or mulitple wars going on in various parts of the world. The US is not directly at war w/anybody, but we are occupying territories and unnecessarily losing American lives from random attacks. I guess it depends on what you would call a world war. Kind of like Vietnam. Personally, I think when we can truly declare WW III, we will be worrying about the termination of modern civilization. Which I don't think will be too far away if the Bush administration is allowed to continue its path of terrorism.

ok well when bush is out of office and you get sumone els ein there whos a fuckign pussy and then all these cocksuckers start pushin there weights around while we jsut watch and then yous will be sayign wow we need to do sumtin then its gonna be a dollar and a day to alte yea it sucks were in this situations but sumone has to be there when push coems to shove and although i dotn give a shit about prett ymuch anything inocent ppl are innocent in general and shit wotng et beeter unless we drop the fuckin ahmmer on mutha fuckers but thats how i feel so wtf lol

[blm]

Originally Posted by njjuicer

ok well when bush is out of office and you get sumone els ein there whos a fuckign pussy and then all these cocksuckers start pushin there weights around while we jsut watch and then yous will be sayign wow we need to do sumtin then its gonna be a dollar and a day to alte yea it sucks were in this situations but sumone has to be there when push coems to shove and although i dotn give a shit about prett ymuch anything inocent ppl are innocent in general and shit wotng et beeter unless we drop the fuckin ahmmer on mutha fuckers but thats how i feel so wtf lol

shut up...the Bush admin brought this shit on when they staged 9/11 as a new Pearl Harbor.

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by blm

shut up...the Bush admin brought this shit on when they staged 9/11 as a new Pearl Harbor.

Bullshit....the Clinton administration had it's chance to clean this mess up but he was too busy gettin his johnson waxed by his fugly intern. I don't understand why people are so quick to blame all of this on our current administration. Let's not forget that there were attempts to blow up the trade center before during Clinton's admin, but he did NOTHING. And then Iraq actually invaded another country during Clinton's administration, and all we did was go in and restrain Israel from kickin the shit out of the Iraqis. Do I completely agree with everything that this administration has done? No. But I'm not about to believe the propoganda pushed by our dear friends, the extreme leftist liberal wackos, who are more concerned with smearing our current administration than coming up with a better answer.

[blm]

Originally Posted by babyblues

Bullshit....

Believe what you want!

[Shibby]

I look at it like this. There are world changing wars going on right now. Whether it is politicaly or militarily, the world is devided. Maybe it's not all out choas yet, but the world is at war.

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by blm

Believe what you want!

That's just the point....I don't. You can't just decide what you believe and then bend the facts around it, if indeed they can be called facts. It doesn't seem to matter what he does, people are bound and determined to believe that Bush is an idiot. That much is obvious. Your belief or non-belief doesn't change reality. I'll stick to reality.

[blm]

Originally Posted by babyblues

Your belief or non-belief doesn't change reality. I'll stick to reality.

The fact and reality is that they cannot provide answers to a large majority of the publics questions and/or the family's questions pertaining to 9/11.

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by blm

The fact and reality is that they cannot provide answers to a large majority of the publics questions and/or the family's questions pertaining to 9/11.

Not hearing the answers that they want. It doesn't matter what the answer is, they're already predetermined to be unsatisfied with it. I'm not arguing against your opinion specifically, just the whole anti-Bush sentiment that seems to be the popular thing today.

Declaring that the Bush administration is on a path of terrorism is ludicrous. We dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, killing over 200,000 innocent civilians. The theory was that the bombings ended a war that would have taken millions of innocent lives had the invasion of Japan proceeded. Now, I'm not going to compare Bush to Truman, who is considered one of the top ten presidents, but Truman also involved the US in the Korean disaster of a war, was accused of being soft on Communism and was accused of corruption in his administration. Can you imagine the shit storm if Bush decided to just destroy a couple of cities in Iraq in a show of power to force the surrender of all Saddam loyalists? Holy fuck, I shudder to think of what you'd call him then. And our war in the middle east hasn't exactly been a disaster either. Our campaign in Afghanistan saw the defeat of Al-Qaeda rule and our campaign in Iraq has seen the capture of Saddam Hussein and the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Hardly fruitless and ineffective.

[Primal Instinct]

Originally Posted by babyblues

Bullshit....the Clinton administration had it's chance to clean this mess up but he was too busy gettin his johnson waxed by his fugly intern. I don't understand why people are so quick to blame all of this on our current administration. Let's not forget that there were attempts to blow up the trade center before during Clinton's admin, but he did NOTHING. And then Iraq actually invaded another country during Clinton's administration, and all we did was go in and restrain Israel from kickin the shit out of the Iraqis. Do I completely agree with everything that this administration has done? No. But I'm not about to believe the propoganda pushed by our dear friends, the extreme leftist liberal wackos, who are more concerned with smearing our current administration than coming up with a better answer.

Iraq invaded Kuwait during Bush Sr's presidential term, not Clinton's term. I also do not agree with your statement about doing nothing after the first WTC truck bomb attack in 1993. There were people caught and prosecuted, one of which was Ramzi Yousef. As for Al Qaeda not being dealt with, you must understand that until about 1996-97 there was no formal terrorist group known as Al Qaeda under Osama bin Laden. After much in-depth investigation it was later determined that OBL was a co-founder of what we now call Al Qaeda but up until then, he was thought to be a shadowy terrorist financeer but proof was not fully substantiated at that point. Hindsight is 20/20 but the reality of the situation is that the FBI and the Justice Department along with DOD intelligence WERE working on terrorist groups and activities related to Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups. As we were (and for the most part, still are) a nation based upon law, we couldn't just start invading sovereign nations in which terrorist groups may or may not be residing within. Using that type of criteria, the US would be invading most sovereign nations in the northern hemisphere, INCLUDING our own country. Domestic terrorists are also a valid threat to public safety and security.


There is nothing wrong in seeking the truth about 9/11. The survivor families and the rest of the nation deserve to know what ACTUALLY happened on that day and the events leading up to the attacks. We are talking about a mass homicide of almost 3,000 people on domestic US soil. If that doesn't warrant a true transparent and independent investigation, I don't what does. The very fact that this administration vehemently resisted to even consider an investigation into such a serious matter for over a year after the attacks should raise some serious red flags.


Just consider this thought: If those aircraft were hijacked and crashed by terrorists from anywhere else besides the middle east or if the supposed hijackers were of a race/ethnicity other than middle eastern do you really think that the invasion of Afghanistan (the springboard to Iraq) and then Iraq could ever have happened? It is doubtful. You see, the attackers HAD to be middle eastern so that would justify a US invasion and nationbuilding efforts there to make the middle east a democracy using gunbarrel diplomacy. Terrorists from say, Africa, Russia, Chechnya or south America simply wouldn't do. How could an average US citizen zombified by the evening news ever make the connection to allow an invasion of Iraq when the terrorists were from a different hemisphere?


There are no coincidences when it comes to geopolitics. Everything is craftily assembled to reach a predetermined conclusion, which is usually reverse engineered to ensure a semi-believeable sequence of events leading up to an inevitable military invasion, occupation of the defeated and the pilfering of the natural resources of a targeted nation.



Seriously, would any of us on this board REALLY allow four or five terrorists with fucking boxcutters to take over and hold a commercial aircraft much less allow them to crash it into buildings? I know that I certainly wouldn't even if it was just me against all of them. Hell, you could disarm a terrorist with a boxcutter using a carry on bag or a frigging laptop computer. Couple that with a rush towards the front of the aircraft with even an equal number of passengers and it is highly unlikely that what we were told happened on those jets actually happened. Add in the fact that these known hijacked aircraft were not intercepted by USAF fighter patrols and the amount of time that these planes were allowed to loiter in US airspace unhindered and you must conclude that this was an inside job. It was simply applying the techniques of overseas black operations on a domestic front to fulfill a political and ideological agenda of key members in our government. No islamic hijackings and/or a very graphic and public catastrophe on live TV = no pissed off civilians and no support for an invasion of whomever we were told did it. We wanted our pound of flesh and we were determined to get our revenge. Convieniently, only hours after it happened di the FBI know the identities of most of the hijackers and who financially backed them? Whoa! Not even Monk could solve that crime so quickly.


Anyone here ever read Orwell's "Animal Farm" before? Here's a hint: Snowball didn't do it.....and neither did 19 misfit arab Islamic terrorists. So, who had the ability to perform such a high level operation which entailed misdirecting USAF interceptors and relocating 99% of all military interceptor coverage of the north eastern corridor? Who destroyed crucial forensic crime scene evidence such as the structural steel from the WTC complex before almost any of it could be evaluated? Who seized the multiple surveillance tapes that show what REALLY struck the Pentagon and have refused to release them to the public? I doubt that Atta could swing any of those feats. I'll let you decide...



EDIT

I almost forgot. How can anyone be so sure that Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was really behind the 9/11 attacks? You see, there is NO PROOF whatsoever. If there was such proof wouldn't you think that perhaps the FBI would have listed something as significant as the 9/11 attacks as a prime reason for wanting to capture him? However, they don't even mention 9/11. Why not?

FBI: Most Wanted Terrorists List


Ask yourself the questions posed in this post and honestly try to resolve them in your mind. The official story simply does not add up. It all points us to a predetermined conclusion and the inevitable and predictable response- revenge. We are being used for ulterior motives and our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, friends and neighbors are the pawns so carelessly discarded by those civilians in the White House and cabinet who run the military but had not even served their duty when called upon. It's disgusting and treasonous.


From the United States Code: Oath of Office
"An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath: “I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”"


There's a specific reason that the word "domestic" was included in the Oath of Office. It's because we as a representative democratic republic are as susceptible (perhaps moreso) to destruction from rogue forces within our government as from outside foreign enemies. The Oath is to uphold our Constitution which contains the principles in which this 219 year old grand experiment of a truly free and representative government was founded upon. 9/11 wasn't so much an attack on our citizens or property as much as it was the beginning of an assault on our entire form of government from within. The alternative form being promoted is an authoritarian government possibly even being enacted under the declaration of martial law due to threats of domestic terrorism. It's the mere specter of security provided in exchange for liberties formerly guaranteed by our Constitution. Once we allow our Constitution to become eroded, we no longer have the form of government instituted by the people, for the people. Personally, that's something that I'm not willing to part with under any condition.

I apologize for the length of this post. I guess that I just had a lot to say on this topic.

[babyblues]

OK, now you’ve turned into a conspiracy theorist. I'm sorry, but I'm going to give my country the benefit of the doubt, whether I'm wrong or right, and not believe that they staged 9/11 just for an excuse to invade Iraq for oil. That's not very rational and as a rational person, I refuse to listen to it. I respect the fact that you have extensive knowledge about some of today's current events, but when you start theorizing about a conspiracy.....you've lost me. Our government doesn't have to explain every last detail to your complete satisfaction in order to exonerate themselves. You're assuming their guilty and demanding that they pr