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I got some Valerian root yesterday...

The bottle smells like stink bait.
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Eww, don't you hate putting something in your mouth that smells totally disgusting?? I can't even stand vitamins...
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Eww, don't you hate putting something in your mouth that smells totally disgusting?? I can't even stand vitamins...
try a shot of extra virgin olive oil sometime. other stuff wont seem so bad after.
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try a shot of extra virgin olive oil sometime. other stuff wont seem so bad after.
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i got valarian the other day too.. stinks!!!
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It does...Works great for sleep though...
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It does...Works great for sleep though...
Yea, that's why I got it. Took last night for the first time(w/melatonin). I think I noticed a difference, trying it again tonight. But it just really caught me off gurad when I opened the bottle lol.
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LOL, you must have accidentally bought Valerian foot, not root. Check the bottle again, Shibby.
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I use the melatonin/valerian root combo every night.

The 2 work better the longer you take it. Thus, you will notice better sleep paterns in 10 days compared to taking it after 1 day. The combo also has a calming, stress breaker effect.

I take 3mg Melatonin and 500mg V-root.
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Yea, that's why I got it. Took last night for the first time(w/melatonin). I think I noticed a difference, trying it again tonight. But it just really caught me off gurad when I opened the bottle lol.
lol...You're better off with Valerian bro...Don't take both; one or the other...I would pick the valerian...
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I use the melatonin/valerian root combo every night.

The 2 work better the longer you take it. Thus, you will notice better sleep paterns in 10 days compared to taking it after 1 day. The combo also has a calming, stress breaker effect.

I take 3mg Melatonin and 500mg V-root.
Too much mela bro...Take one or the other....No need for both...If you have to take THAT much of both, get checked out...You may need some temp relief of Ambien CR(see a doctor)and also watch your intake on certain drinks/foods combined...I'm really good with this subject here on sleeping issues...I actually wrote a really nice paper for FG back in the day...
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Too much mela bro...Take one or the other....No need for both...If you have to take THAT much of both, get checked out...You may need some temp relief of Ambien CR(see a doctor)and also watch your intake on certain drinks/foods combined...I'm really good with this subject here on sleeping issues...I actually wrote a really nice paper for FG back in the day...
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Are you still a member at FG? If so, please search it bro. I know it's still there...I was banned...I'm not able to log in and search it...I will try though...It was a great read...Actually I think you were the one who started this thing about writing a monthly newsletter for the board and I said that I would do my best in sleeping problems, since I'm good with that kind of stuff.
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Otherwise, give me some time and let me see what I can come up with.
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Not to be an ass, but...No need to talk about it...It is what it is...
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Here is the link:

Sorry, here is the paper:

Here's my final paper that I wrote for the newsletter. It has not been edited yet(not that It needs to), but feel free to read the very important info.


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Sleeping Disorder(s) and/or Insomnia;


Insomnia – complaint describing difficulty in sleeping.


Insomnia is anticipated to affect more than half of the U.S. adult population, now that’s upsetting. Insomnia can take many different forms, difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep. This one in particular was my problem, it actually still is. Waking up too early is another one, had a short problem with this as well. Medication was prescribed and somewhat got better; I will get into detail later. A survey was completed by the National Sleep Foundation, 58% of adults reported having insomnia at least a few nights a week. And the vast majority of those surveyed agreed that sleep loss can have a major impact on their lives:

• 93% agreed that sleep loss can impair work performance

• 92% felt that sleep loss can increase one’s risk of injuries

• 90% agreed that not getting enough sleep makes it difficult to get along with others

• 86% believed that sleep deficits can lead to health problems



About half of Americans reports sleep difficulty at least frequently. These woes called insomnia by doctors have far reaching effects. If you have trouble falling or staying asleep, or you wake up feeling un-refreshed, you may be suffering from insomnia.




There are three basic types of insomnia:

1. Transient insomnia; lasts only a few nights. It is often caused by jet lag, temporary stress, excitement, illness, or a change in sleep schedule.

2. Short-term insomnia; lasts up to three weeks. It often results from more prolonged stress or worries, such as financial troubles, death of a loved one, job change, or divorce. If not addressed, short-term insomnia may escalate into a chronic problem.

3. Chronic insomnia; also known as long-term insomnia, lasts more than a month. It can occur every night, most nights, or several nights each month. Chronic insomnia is often caused by a medical problem; treating the underlying problem may alleviate the insomnia. Chronic sleeplessness may also be caused by bad sleep habits.



Insomnia is a disorder. It may be caused by stress, anxiety, depression, disease, pain, medications, sleep disorders or poor sleep habits. Stress is considered to be the #1 cause of short-term sleeping difficulties, I can attest to that myself. I never noticed the problem I had until a few recent happenings that took place. It all started with loss of concentration, poor work habits, loss of social activities and loss of sex drive. Usually the sleep problem disappears when the stressful situation passes. However, if short-term sleep problems such as insomnia aren't managed properly from the beginning, they can persist long after the original stress has passed.


That's why it's a good idea to talk to a physician about any sleeping problem that recurs or persists for longer than one week. Your doctor can help you take steps early to control or prevent poor sleep. Since insomnia can also be brought on by depression, evaluation by a healthcare professional is essential.




Sleep Disorders - broad range of illnesses arising from many causes, including, dysfunctional sleep mechanisms, and abnormalities in physiological functions during sleep, abnormalities of the biological clock, and sleep disturbances that are induced by factors extrinsic to the sleep process.


Some of the biggest “Sleep Stealers” are Psychological Factors, Lifestyle Stressors, Shift Work, Jet Lag, Environmental Interferences, Physical Factors, and Medications. Some of those I’ve mentioned above and some of those like Medications, can interfere with sleep i.e.; some decongestants, steroids, medicines for high blood pressure, asthma, or depression can cause sleeping difficulties as a side effect. How is this is for a shocker, older adults do not need less sleep as they age. I was shocked when I read this, and sorry that I forgot the source, but it was a good read I found recently. Like younger adults, they require between seven to nine hours of sleep nightly, and if you can get these kinds of hours for sleep, please do so. Older people may seem to need less sleep because they are prone to waking up more frequently during the night.


Shift work amazingly can also be a problem, most Americans don’t realize that. In all actuality about 20% of Americans work late at night, that’s an astounding number in my opinion. Studies have shown that shift workers are two to five times more likely than employees with regular daytime hours to fall asleep on the job.


Discover Patterns to try and help you sleep better. To solve any problem, you have to identify it first. One reliable way to pinpoint your sleep problems is to keep track of each night’s sleep for about seven days. If you really put an effort into this, believe me it works.


Things to avoid for better sleep;

• Try not to exercise within three hours of bedtime, something I got in the habit (a bad one too) of doing. Some people try to tire themselves out by exercising close to bedtime. This approach can backfire, since exercise actually stimulates the body by speeding up the heart rate and metabolism. There’s a positive flip side: Exercising on a regular basis (during the day) may help you sleep well at night. But we all knew that right?

• Smoking, Yea I know, some of you don’t want to hear this, but hear me out. Nicotine is a stimulant that can keep you awake. Keep away from smoking in the six hours before your bedtime, at least try. You can thank yourself later or me after your better night sleep.

• Caffeine can delay your sleep (for obvious reasons) and cause you to wake up or not got to sleep at all during the night. Avoid caffeinated drinks and foods (coffee, tea, cola, and chocolate) if possible after the evening. Or you may want to try avoiding caffeine entirely and see if your sleep improves.


This information provided below was taken from www.CNN.com/Health





Prescription sleep medication


Benzodiazepines


Brand name Generic name Prescribed for

Ambien Zolpidem Insomnia
Ativan Lorazepam Anxiety/Insomnia
Dalmane Flurazepam Insomnia
Halcion Triazolam Short-term insomnia
Restoril Temazepam Short-term insomnia
Valium Diazepam Anxiety/Insomnia
Xanax Alprazolam Anxiety/Insomnia



Natural sleep aids



Chamomile

A white apple-scented flower that aids in calming the nerves. Chamomile is often taken as a bedtime tea.

Form: Dried, capsules, aromatic oil

Method for sleep: Teas, baths, aroma




Hops

Hops are flowers that can promote sleep. It is used extensively for the treatment of Insomnia. They are known to lower tension and anxiety.

Form: Raw, extract

Method for sleep: Teas




California
Poppy

A non-narcotic flower occasionally used to treat insomnia. Often used in teas.

Form: Raw flower, extract

Method for sleep: Teas




Catnip

The leaves of the catnip herb have long been used in inducing relaxation. Its lemony mint-scented leaves are commonly used in brewing tea.

Form: Dried leaves

Method for sleep: Teas




Lemon
Balm

The leaves of the lemon balm herb have been used for centuries in Europe to treat headaches and restlessness. It can be blended with herbs such as chamomile and peppermint to make a relaxing bedtime tea.

Form: Raw leaves, oil

Method for sleep: Teas, baths, massages.



Lavender

The aroma oil from the lavender plant often helps in bringing about a relaxed state. People commonly add a few drops of lavender to a hot bath and directly to a pillow.

Form: Oil, lotions

Method for sleep: Aroma, teas, massages, baths




Passion
Flower

Passion Flower is effective in treating transient insomnia. It is specifically useful in relieving restlessness. It aids the transition into a restful sleep without any narcotic hangover.

Form: Dried, capsules, oil

Method for sleep: Aroma, teas, bath oil




Skullcap

An herb that is used in effectively treating insomnia, headaches, and restlessness.

Form: Dried leaves

Method for sleep: Teas




Valerian
Root

Valerian root is a powerful natural sedative and muscle relaxant. Scientific studies have shown valerian root to be effective in reducing the time it takes to fall asleep. Valerian root can be taken in tablets or combined with teas or other foods.

Form: Raw, tablets, powder

Method for sleep: Teas, tablets




Melatonin is a naturally occurring chemical in the body that has been available to consumers since the early 90's. The body’s ability to produce melatonin begins to drop somewhat after the age of 40 in most people. The hormone is not strictly regulated by the FDA and is considered a food supplement. Some doctors recommend using melatonin to lessen the disruption to the body's natural clock caused by jet lag. .



Well this is what I’ve come up with for this topic, well if I really wanted too I could go on and on. This topic is endless in my opinion. I’ve looked at different articles, books, magazines etc…Well my next topic will be on Depression and maybe some medication that can help with depression.
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Good job bro, thanks...It's a bit old, but still a good read..../\
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Well this is what I’ve come up with for this topic, well if I really wanted too I could go on and on. This topic is endless in my opinion. I’ve looked at different articles, books, magazines etc…Well my next topic will be on Depression and maybe some medication that can help with depression.

Yea, this is old...It's when I had just come off Dep meds.
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Good read but it dosent say anything about why the 2 cant be used together or at what dose. Any more info would be great. Thanks
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Good read but it dosent say anything about why the 2 cant be used together or at what dose. Any more info would be great. Thanks
Been busy at work...Never said both together are not good...But if your body can not adjust to Valerian(which is natural as oppose to man made;Mela)...Then maybe your issue is more than that...I take Valerian by itself(sometimes) and works well...Valerian is awesome...The rec dose on the bottles are for the avg person/height/weight ratio.

In your case, you may have to take double of Valerian, if not 3x's. I take double the dose...Also, when