Arnold tells Hispanics to turn off the spanish tv networks and learn english..

[THE BOUNCER]

I love this guy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cda_1181869054

[fog_hat1981]

He couldn't be more right - assimilation has been the key foundation of this nation - without it things can get downright ugly...

[blm]

I deal with this shit every day at work. Go Ahnold!

[Gods Son]

:bravonew:

[NewbieChris]

This will make him very unpopular...Californias main language is mexican (pretend spanish). The immigrants wasnt us to adapt to their culture, and most political science majores, 'liberals', will agree due to the fact that they believe America is a melting pot where we should all be multi-lingual...I'll be interested to see how this fairs. I personally think there should be a national language...English...

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

This will make him very unpopular...Californias main language is mexican (pretend spanish). The immigrants wasnt us to adapt to their culture, and most political science majores, 'liberals', will agree due to the fact that they believe America is a melting pot where we should all be multi-lingual...I'll be interested to see how this fairs. I personally think there should be a national language...English...

Not true - most political science students/majors/professors and historians alike will tell you that while it's VERY important for America to remain a "melting pot" we must also remember the times when immigrant groups from the past failed to assimilate and caused terrible terrible problems for themselves/society (or they were kept from being able to assimilate due to discrimination etc). Having a "melting pot" society is incredibly important for our future and has been for our past - however - like I said before these groups must assimilate or else they will face much worse problems than a language barrier etc...

[NewbieChris]

Originally Posted by fog_hat1981

Not true - most political science students/majors/professors and historians alike will tell you that while it's VERY important for America to remain a "melting pot" we must also remember the times when immigrant groups from the past failed to assimilate and caused terrible terrible problems for themselves/society (or they were kept from being able to assimilate due to discrimination etc). Having a "melting pot" society is incredibly important for our future and has been for our past - however - like I said before these groups must assimilate or else they will face much worse problems than a language barrier etc...

Well, I never meant to convey that we should do away with 'America the melting pot', but to reinforce the idea that we have to remain a melting pot. On the same page my point on a multi-lingual society might have been somewhat misleading and confusing. I just read it and it didn't make much sense. Assimilations comes im many forms, ie cultural traits, values, etc., not just language. Since the majority of the world does not speak one language, the idea of being multi-lingual is very much appriciated and in the internation community. I shouldn't have said 'political science' majors, rather international politics majors. In our lifetime there will be no singular language and thus America will never have a single language. The need for bi-linguals is becoming ever more increasingly important. The truth of the matter is 'spanish' is here to stay, atleast for the near future, so we might as well start teaching our society to use that language. I think its sad, but I believe that is the truth. People and cultures do not souly assimilate to Americas society, a lot of times our society molds itself to include huge aspects of their cultures...

As for the singular group learning to assimilate to our system, the pendulum swings both ways. In all reality Southern California could be lost in that respect. Spanish is definately the language I have encountered the most here in daily life than English. The idea that the many will change their ways to please the few is unrealistic in my mind.

[rado]

Que pasa cabron

[ROCKILLER]

I'm kinda surprised you guys feel this way, my opinions are usually a little different. I am all for people from ANY country at the bare minimum learning the language if they want to live. I would do the same if I moved to some country with another language.

[Gods Son]

Learn English or get the HELL OUT. BTW most of the Spanish in Cali are Illegal anyway,so to hell with them

[Turbo3000]

Yeah go Arnold. If I moved to Japan and took my family do I expect them to make me comfortable and learn English? I think not, I was under the impression that you try and assimilate into the culture you are located within the best you can. This country is too PC.

[Mr incredible]

didn't seem like he said anything wrong, he was just being honest in helping people better get on in life and learning the nations language would help

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

Well, I never meant to convey that we should do away with 'America the melting pot', but to reinforce the idea that we have to remain a melting pot. On the same page my point on a multi-lingual society might have been somewhat misleading and confusing. I just read it and it didn't make much sense. Assimilations comes im many forms, ie cultural traits, values, etc., not just language. Since the majority of the world does not speak one language, the idea of being multi-lingual is very much appriciated and in the internation community. I shouldn't have said 'political science' majors, rather international politics majors. In our lifetime there will be no singular language and thus America will never have a single language. The need for bi-linguals is becoming ever more increasingly important. The truth of the matter is 'spanish' is here to stay, atleast for the near future, so we might as well start teaching our society to use that language. I think its sad, but I believe that is the truth. People and cultures do not souly assimilate to Americas society, a lot of times our society molds itself to include huge aspects of their cultures...

As for the singular group learning to assimilate to our system, the pendulum swings both ways. In all reality Southern California could be lost in that respect. Spanish is definately the language I have encountered the most here in daily life than English. The idea that the many will change their ways to please the few is unrealistic in my mind.

Fair enough - I could go on but we're not here for that - I don't think we are at a disagreement at this point - just have different viewpoints on the same topic...

However, the language barrier is what poses the largest problem IMO (and no I'm NOT referring to a globular level - just to maintain a nation under one identity)....

[blm]

Originally Posted by fog_hat1981

globular

:laughnew:

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

Well, I never meant to convey that we should do away with 'America the melting pot', but to reinforce the idea that we have to remain a melting pot. On the same page my point on a multi-lingual society might have been somewhat misleading and confusing. I just read it and it didn't make much sense. Assimilations comes im many forms, ie cultural traits, values, etc., not just language. Since the majority of the world does not speak one language, the idea of being multi-lingual is very much appriciated and in the internation community. I shouldn't have said 'political science' majors, rather international politics majors. In our lifetime there will be no singular language and thus America will never have a single language. The need for bi-linguals is becoming ever more increasingly important. The truth of the matter is 'spanish' is here to stay, atleast for the near future, so we might as well start teaching our society to use that language. I think its sad, but I believe that is the truth. People and cultures do not souly assimilate to Americas society, a lot of times our society molds itself to include huge aspects of their cultures...

As for the singular group learning to assimilate to our system, the pendulum swings both ways. In all reality Southern California could be lost in that respect. Spanish is definately the language I have encountered the most here in daily life than English. The idea that the many will change their ways to please the few is unrealistic in my mind.

I'm probably just restating what has already been said here and I do agree with what's been said.

I think the sticking point is that these people come to the USA and never learn to speak English. If you want to come to this country and become part of the "melting pot" than you need to learn our language. It doesn't matter if they speak 19 different languages; if they don't speak our language, there's going to be a problem communicating. Without a common language, there is no "melting pot". It's more than just living here and working here. It's becoming a part of our society. I don't think this is a case of the many changing their ways to please the few, I think it's the few changing their ways to become a part of the many. I'm all for people from other countries coming here and retaining their culture, but they need to be willing to embrace our culture and that includes our language. Not that we're so superior, but you did chose to come live in OUR country.

[hitmansb]

Way to go, Arnold. I wish he'd told the Quebecois francophones to learn fucking English while he was up here in Canada on that trade mission.