FINALLY- someone is taking action

[rado]

Originally Posted by grnmchn

No shit, you say "The ghetto as you call it is because the superior atheletes are from that enviroment.." and I'm the ignorant one. Why is it that no one here agrees with you? There are thousands of athletes in the NFL, so why is it that certian ones are always in trouble? And it is a privelege to get paid millions of dollars a year to play a game. Regardless of how much an Owner makes. It's his team. If Vick wants to run things then he should start is own team and see how well he succeeds.

Superior; Manning Brothers(white)...Bledsoe(white)...Larry Bird(white)...Montana(white)...I could go on and on on "superior" athletes who are NOT BLACK.

[grnmchn]

Originally Posted by rado

Superior; Manning Brothers(white)...Bledsoe(white)...Larry Bird(white)...Montana(white)...I could go on and on on "superior" athletes who are NOT BLACK.

Why'd you use my quote, I didn't say all superior athletes were black

[rado]

Originally Posted by grnmchn

Why'd you use my quote, I didn't say all superior athletes were black

Was not intended towards you My bad...I knew what you meant

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Gods Son

Who said its a privaledge to play in the NFL?A privaledge for who?The player,league,team?Players make a few million teams a billion.They get paid according to what they are worth to the team.The athelete is the one getting exploited.Athletes are human not Role Models.Its our responsibility to teach or kids,not Terrel Owens.

It IS a privilege. They are CHOSEN to play...this isn't a football camp you sign up for and any one can come. Let's be serious.

Please explain how the athlete is getting exploited. I'm sorry, but I don't recall an athlete complaining about how much money they are making.

Athletes ARE human, and MOST OF ALL- they are ROLE MODELS. If they weren't a role model, then how come the big endorsers use them to boost their product sales??? Because kids LOOK UP TO THEM. IT's pretty simple. It's not about teaching our kids. Don't you remember the Michael Jordan campaign "I want to be like Mike"???????

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by rado

Superior; Manning Brothers(white)...Bledsoe(white)...Larry Bird(white)...Montana(white)...I could go on and on on "superior" athletes who are NOT BLACK.

Joe Thiesman (white)....Tom Brady (white)....Brett Favre(white)...Dan Marino (white)

[rado]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

It IS a privilege.Don't you remember the Michael Jordan campaign "I want to be like Mike"???????

Ahh yes...I wanted to be like him as a kid...Only a shorter version of him

[rado]

Originally Posted by redsquirrel

Joe Thiesman (white)....Tom Brady (white)....Brett Favre(white)...Dan Marino (white)

Good picks!

[redsquirrel]

Originally Posted by rado

I wanted to be like him as a kid

Exactly the point I was trying to prove! :bravonew:

[rado]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290627,00.html

Falcon's Owner: Vick Indictment Will Not Compromise Team

Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank said today that facts — and not emotions — are needed in pursuing a course of action following quarterback Michael Vick's indictment on dogfighting charges.

Blank declined to say whether he envisions Vick playing for the Falcons again. He said that right now the allegations are unproven criminal charges, and the legal process has to be respected.

Blank said the team had suggested a four-game suspension by the NFL but is satisfied with action taken by Commissioner Roger Goodell, who has ordered Vick yesterday to stay away from the team's training camp until a league review of the charges against him is completed.

Blank noted at a news conference this afternoon that Goodell has instructed the Falcons not to take any unilateral action on Vick's status pending the league review.

He said the team needed to prepare for the possibility that Vick's absence "may run into the regular season," and said that the Falcon organization "can't allow it to disrupt what the Falcon's are trying to achieve on the field and in the community."

"We are committed to doing the right thing on and off the field," Blank said. "No one will compromise what we stand for."

Michael Vick Due in Court July 26 on Dogfighting Charges Gruesome Details in Indictment Naming NFL Quarterback Michael Vick in Dogfighting Case NFL Quarterback Michael Vick Indicted in Dog Fighting Case He called the charges "substantial" and "serious" but said that the person portrayed in the indictment was "not the young man I've gotten to know.":laughnew:

you fucking kidding me...good way to stick up for him

"I'm very disappointed that Michael has put himself in the circumstances he finds himself in," he said.

Blank also acknowledged that the indictment had "touched the emotions of people across the country."

"The notion that anyone could participate in dog fighting is incomprehensible to me," Blank said.

Falcon's President and General Manager Rich McKay said the decision to suspend Vick was the "appropriate step" to take.

He said the Falcons' would only discuss the matter at Tuesday's press conference, and would not speak publicly on the issue until the "situation changes."

Vick was ordered by Goodell on Monday to stay away from the Falcons' training camp until the league reviews the dogfighting charges against him.

"While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy," Goodell said in a letter to the quarterback.

The NFL said Vick would still get his preseason pay and Goodell told the Falcons to withhold any disciplinary action of their own until the league's review was completed.

Goodell told Vick the league would complete its review as quickly as possible and that he expected full cooperation.

The Falcons open camp on Thursday, the same day Vick is scheduled to be arraigned in Richmond, Va., on charges of sponsoring a dogfighting operation.

Vick, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2001 draft, last season became the first quarterback ever to rush for more than 1,000 yards.

After his indictment last week, the NFL's position was that it would monitor developments and allow the legal process to "determine the facts."

Since then, pressure has been mounting on the league and the Falcons, particularly from animal-rights groups.

PETA — People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals — demonstrated at Falcons' headquarters in Flowery Branch, Ga., on Monday and did the same outside NFL offices in New York last week. At the same time, Goodell was meeting with officials from the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. The league and the ASPCA are working on a program to educate players about the proper treatment of animals.

Activists also put pressure on companies that have endorsements deals with Vick to sever their ties. Nike said it would not release a fifth signature shoe, the Air Zoom Vick V, this summer. Nike spokesman Dean Stoyer said the four shoe products and three shirts that currently bear Vick's name will remain in stores.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by rado

This statement above is pretty much useless if he were to be found NOT GUILTY...If he's found not guilty, what rule(s) did he violate? Personal conduct? I'd like to see this one play out...Prof sports in a whole need to be scrutinized a bit more; actually a lot more.

Why can't we have more of a John Lynch, Manning's, Bledsoe's, Montana's, Reggy White(r.i.p), Jerry Rice, Hogan's, Lou G(r.i.p), Larry Bird, Jordan's etc...Within the Prof sports industries today?

And for the most part, it's Black athlete's who do this kind of stupid fucked up shit Look at the fights in B-Ball; Blacks...Look at football; Blacks...College F-Ball...Blacks.

I'm NOT saying that other races don't get in trouble...But come on...Look at what happened with Duke players...But they were found innocent due to OVERWHELMING evidence against those who were blaming them.

You're so full of shit, rado.

Black athletes who are/were all time greats who didn't make trouble:
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Magic Johnson
James Worthy
Kareem Abdul Jabar
Robert Parish
Dennis Johnson
Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Lebron James
Kevin Garnett
Grant Hill
Patrick Ewing
Karl Malone
Shaq
Dwayne Wade
Clyde Drexler
Gilbert Arenas
Ray Allen
Carlos Boozer
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
Dr. J
Carl Lewis
Michael Johnson
Eric Dickerson
Walter Payton
Jerry Rice
Cory Dillon
Edgerin James
LeDainian Tomlinson
Larry Johnson
Tiki Barber
Jason Taylor
Marvin Harrison
Champ Bailey
Asante Samuel
Ronny Lott
Reggie White
Irving Fryer
Mike Singletary
Jim Brown
Art Monk
Ozzie Newsome
Ed "Too Tall" Jones
Emmit Smith
Bruce Smith
Gale Sayers
David "Deacon" Jones
Rod Woodson

And that's just basketball and football for the most part. The overwhelming majority of players in those two sports are black, so it stands to reason that black players are causing trouble in greater numbers than white players. That's just plain statistics.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by babyblues

You're so full of shit, rado.

Black athletes who are/were all time greats who didn't make trouble:
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Magic Johnson
James Worthy
Kareem Abdul Jabar
Robert Parish
Dennis Johnson
Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Lebron James
Kevin Garnett
Grant Hill
Patrick Ewing
Karl Malone
Shaq
Dwayne Wade
Clyde Drexler
Gilbert Arenas
Ray Allen
Carlos Boozer
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
Dr. J
Carl Lewis
Michael Johnson
Eric Dickerson
Walter Payton
Jerry Rice
Cory Dillon
Edgerin James
LeDainian Tomlinson
Larry Johnson
Tiki Barber
Jason Taylor
Marvin Harrison
Champ Bailey
Asante Samuel
Ronny Lott
Reggie White
Irving Fryer
Mike Singletary
Jim Brown
Art Monk
Ozzie Newsome
Ed "Too Tall" Jones
Emmit Smith
Bruce Smith
Gale Sayers
David "Deacon" Jones
Rod Woodson

And that's just basketball and football for the most part. The overwhelming majority of players in those two sports are black, so it stands to reason that black players are causing trouble in greater numbers than white players. That's just plain statistics.

forgot to add OJ Simpson.

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

forgot to add OJ Simpson.

:laughnew:

[rado]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

forgot to add OJ Simpson.

:laughnew:

[rado]

Originally Posted by babyblues

You're so full of shit, rado.

Black athletes who are/were all time greats who didn't make trouble:
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Magic Johnson
James Worthy
Kareem Abdul Jabar
Robert Parish
Dennis Johnson
Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Lebron James
Kevin Garnett
Grant Hill
Patrick Ewing
Karl Malone
Shaq
Dwayne Wade
Clyde Drexler
Gilbert Arenas
Ray Allen
Carlos Boozer
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
Dr. J
Carl Lewis
Michael Johnson
Eric Dickerson
Walter Payton
Jerry Rice
Cory Dillon
Edgerin James
LeDainian Tomlinson
Larry Johnson
Tiki Barber
Jason Taylor
Marvin Harrison
Champ Bailey
Asante Samuel
Ronny Lott
Reggie White
Irving Fryer
Mike Singletary
Jim Brown
Art Monk
Ozzie Newsome
Ed "Too Tall" Jones
Emmit Smith
Bruce Smith
Gale Sayers
David "Deacon" Jones
Rod Woodson

And that's just basketball and football for the most part. The overwhelming majority of players in those two sports are black, so it stands to reason that black players are causing trouble in greater numbers than white players. That's just plain statistics.

I know we've had some great if black sports players in the past and present...But for the most part in this era, the ones who get in trouble are black...So STFU and choke on your spit

[Gods Son]

Originally Posted by babyblues

You're so full of shit, rado.

Black athletes who are/were all time greats who didn't make trouble:
Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen
Magic Johnson
James Worthy
Kareem Abdul Jabar
Robert Parish
Dennis Johnson
Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Lebron James
Kevin Garnett
Grant Hill
Patrick Ewing
Karl Malone
Shaq
Dwayne Wade
Clyde Drexler
Gilbert Arenas
Ray Allen
Carlos Boozer
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
Dr. J
Carl Lewis
Michael Johnson
Eric Dickerson
Walter Payton
Jerry Rice
Cory Dillon
Edgerin James
LeDainian Tomlinson
Larry Johnson
Tiki Barber
Jason Taylor
Marvin Harrison
Champ Bailey
Asante Samuel
Ronny Lott
Reggie White
Irving Fryer
Mike Singletary
Jim Brown
Art Monk
Ozzie Newsome
Ed "Too Tall" Jones
Emmit Smith
Bruce Smith
Gale Sayers
David "Deacon" Jones
Rod Woodson

And that's just basketball and football for the most part. The overwhelming majority of players in those two sports are black, so it stands to reason that black players are causing trouble in greater numbers than white players. That's just plain statistics.

Exactly all of those guys are Ghetto.... Every damn one of em.Whoever said theisman who had one good season was superior was a huge over statement,Bledsoe???? Huh He had a good rookie season then never lived up to expectation.There are great white atheletes hell im one LOL John Riggins was the best white baller

[Gods Son]

Gilbert arenas has had his share of trouble.BTW mike JOrdan ill give credit for keeping a low pro on his personal life,but he had Gambling issues,a 15yr affair behind his wifes back.Disrespected other players,Hardly a role model.Nike made him look good.

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Originally Posted by Gods Son

Gilbert arenas has had his share of trouble.BTW mike JOrdan ill give credit for keeping a low pro on his personal life,but he had Gambling issues,a 15yr affair behind his wifes back.Disrespected other players,Hardly a role model.Nike made him look good.

You're comparing Apples to Oranges here...I'm not going to debate with you anymore on this subject...That would be like trying to teach someone how to drive when they're fucking blind

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by Gods Son

Gilbert arenas has had his share of trouble.BTW mike JOrdan ill give credit for keeping a low pro on his personal life,but he had Gambling issues,a 15yr affair behind his wifes back.Disrespected other players,Hardly a role model.Nike made him look good.

I'm not talking about perfect personal lives, I'm talking about trouble with the law, both on and off the court, that gives the league a bad name.

[beefcake]

Where was barry sanders in that list? I'm going to take a dump on my keyboard now. :thumbsdow

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by beefcake

Where was barry sanders in that list? I'm going to take a dump on my keyboard now. :thumbsdow

Goddamn! How the hell could I miss that?! Put Barry Sanders at the top of the list. Dude was a class act all the time.