Forbes Top 400 Richest Individuals in America

[YellowJacket]

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/54/...cans_Rank.html

Fuckers.

[THE BOUNCER]

Gates and Buffet are almost twice as rich as everyone else. buffet still lives in the same little house he bought in the 60's. some guy tried to rob it like 2 weeks ago. lmao.

i respect the self made people but those people with "inheritance" next to their name just piss me off.

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i respect the self made people but those people with "inheritance" next to their name just piss me off.

[NewbieChris]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i respect the self made people but those people with "inheritance" next to their name just piss me off.

i think it depends what they do when they inherit the money more than anything else.

[redback]

Originally Posted by NewbieChris

i think it depends what they do when they inherit the money more than anything else.

i dont think so because whatever they want to do, they have the financial backing for, so the hard part is over already, even the ones who do go on and build companies etc..its not hard to do that when you got the funds

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by redback

i dont think so because whatever they want to do, they have the financial backing for, so the hard part is over already, even the ones who do go on and build companies etc..its not hard to do that when you got the funds

i agree.

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by redback

i dont think so because whatever they want to do, they have the financial backing for, so the hard part is over already, even the ones who do go on and build companies etc..its not hard to do that when you got the funds

Nope, not true. Anyone can make money. Just look at most pro athletes. They have money, but most of them don't know how to manage it. That's the key, knowing how to manage money. If you spread out the money in this country evenly to every person, I guarantee you that the same people would end up with all of it again after 10 years. That's because these people know how to keep the money they have and are willing to do what it takes to accomplish that. It IS hard to build companies etc. even when you have the money. How many of us wouldn't like to win the lottery? Well, did you know that most lottery winners end up bankrupt? We don't know what to do with money like that. Those people do, that's why they keep it.

I think that it's a shame that there are so many people living paycheck to paycheck struggling to make ends meet while these 400 people are hogging as much money to themselves as they can, just because they can. I know, I know, Bill Gates is the biggest philanthropist in the world too. Well, frankly, he should be. He was also the one who made the comment that making money didn't drive him, making MORE money did. That's a sickness.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by babyblues

Nope, not true. Anyone can make money. Just look at most pro athletes. They have money, but most of them don't know how to manage it. That's the key, knowing how to manage money. If you spread out the money in this country evenly to every person, I guarantee you that the same people would end up with all of it again after 10 years. That's because these people know how to keep the money they have and are willing to do what it takes to accomplish that. It IS hard to build companies etc. even when you have the money. How many of us wouldn't like to win the lottery? Well, did you know that most lottery winners end up bankrupt? We don't know what to do with money like that. Those people do, that's why they keep it.

I think that it's a shame that there are so many people living paycheck to paycheck struggling to make ends meet while these 400 people are hogging as much money to themselves as they can, just because they can. I know, I know, Bill Gates is the biggest philanthropist in the world too. Well, frankly, he should be. He was also the one who made the comment that making money didn't drive him, making MORE money did. That's a sickness.

your argument just isn't correct man. lets take a look at 1 person to prove my point. Paris Hilton. Do you honestly believe that paris hilton knows how to manage money and knows how to keep it? do you think she would be rich if she wasnt born into the hilton family? not a chance, her parents have a whole team of lawyers and advisor's looking out for her and her money.

You say anyone can make money. Well not anyone can be a billionaire like the people in this article. by far the hardest thing to do is making that kind of money. no comparison.

[grnmchn]

I think they left my name off the list

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

your argument just isn't correct man. lets take a look at 1 person to prove my point. Paris Hilton. Do you honestly believe that paris hilton knows how to manage money and knows how to keep it? do you think she would be rich if she wasnt born into the hilton family? not a chance, her parents have a whole team of lawyers and advisor's looking out for her and her money.

You say anyone can make money. Well not anyone can be a billionaire like the people in this article. by far the hardest thing to do is making that kind of money. no comparison.

Um, dude, Paris Hilton isn't on the list and she's not a billionaire. However, did you know that Paris Hilton was first a model? She designs fashion accessories, shoes, perfumes and participates in quite a few other business ventures. She made almost 10M a year for the past few years. She did that all on her own. Yes, I honestly think that Paris Hilton knows how to manage money and knows how to keep it. You don't do what she does and stay where she is without that. It just doesn't happen.

You don't think Bill Gates a gaggle of lawyers and advisors looking out for him and his money? Of course he does. Bill Gates employees thousands of people who make him his billions. So does Warren Buffet and virtually everyone else on that list. You can't get there by yourself, but there are relatively few people (400 out of 350M) who have the ability to lead other people to accomplish that.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by babyblues

Um, dude, Paris Hilton isn't on the list and she's not a billionaire. However, did you know that Paris Hilton was first a model? She designs fashion accessories, shoes, perfumes and participates in quite a few other business ventures. She made almost 10M a year for the past few years. She did that all on her own. Yes, I honestly think that Paris Hilton knows how to manage money and knows how to keep it. You don't do what she does and stay where she is without that. It just doesn't happen.

You don't think Bill Gates a gaggle of lawyers and advisors looking out for him and his money? Of course he does. Bill Gates employees thousands of people who make him his billions. So does Warren Buffet and virtually everyone else on that list. You can't get there by yourself, but there are relatively few people (400 out of 350M) who have the ability to lead other people to accomplish that.

point is this. the hardest thing to do is to make the money. you seem to dismiss the work that people like gates and anyone else that is rich. they worked their fucking asses off to get there. that is the hardest part.

paris hilton was an example, never said she was on the list. she makes perfumes, models, etc.. because she has been given those opportunities to do so. if she was born into a household that makes 30k a year you would never see her on a model runway. you would never see her with her own perfume. the only person worth a damn in that family is the grandfather that made the fortunes and built up the company. he did the hardest part. now the family can do what they want and get all the opportunities they want. i will say again, i have 100% respect for the self made's. not the people that are handed it.

[NYCmitch25]

Originally Posted by babyblues

Nope, not true. Anyone can make money. Just look at most pro athletes. They have money, but most of them don't know how to manage it. That's the key, knowing how to manage money. If you spread out the money in this country evenly to every person, I guarantee you that the same people would end up with all of it again after 10 years. That's because these people know how to keep the money they have and are willing to do what it takes to accomplish that. It IS hard to build companies etc. even when you have the money. How many of us wouldn't like to win the lottery? Well, did you know that most lottery winners end up bankrupt? We don't know what to do with money like that. Those people do, that's why they keep it.

I think that it's a shame that there are so many people living paycheck to paycheck struggling to make ends meet while these 400 people are hogging as much money to themselves as they can, just because they can. I know, I know, Bill Gates is the biggest philanthropist in the world too. Well, frankly, he should be. He was also the one who made the comment that making money didn't drive him, making MORE money did. That's a sickness.

bad analogy, pro athlete is equivalent to white trash winning the lottery. i kinda see your point but its a quite a bit more that just managing your money. i dont really agree.

also Paris Hilton is a Cunt

[toolwtf]

pro athlete's earn their money, that isn't the same as someone winning the lottery

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by toolwtf

pro athlete's earn their money, that isn't the same as someone winning the lottery

i would have to agree with that. definitely not the same as winning the lottery.

[redback]

Originally Posted by babyblues

Um, dude, Paris Hilton isn't on the list and she's not a billionaire. However, did you know that Paris Hilton was first a model? She designs fashion accessories, shoes, perfumes and participates in quite a few other business ventures. She made almost 10M a year for the past few years. She did that all on her own. Yes, I honestly think that Paris Hilton knows how to manage money and knows how to keep it. You don't do what she does and stay where she is without that. It just doesn't happen.

You don't think Bill Gates a gaggle of lawyers and advisors looking out for him and his money? Of course he does. Bill Gates employees thousands of people who make him his billions. So does Warren Buffet and virtually everyone else on that list. You can't get there by yourself, but there are relatively few people (400 out of 350M) who have the ability to lead other people to accomplish that.

You cant be fucking serious, yeah paris was a model and has a label and whatever else she does, but there is no way she has done this on her own, she has no idea how to manage money, have you seen the "simple life". you have only got to watch 5mins of that show to see the silly twat has absoloutley no work ethic or sense of urgency in anything she does

[NYCmitch25]

Originally Posted by toolwtf

pro athlete's earn their money, that isn't the same as someone winning the lottery

your not following. the way they manage their money. going from very poor (in a lot of cases especially the NBA) to instant millionaires. i didnt think it was that confusing.

[grnmchn]

I definitely see Mitch's point with the pro athlete analogy. Most ro athletes make more than any of us can dream of. Yet when they retire most have nothing. I think this mainly comes form the fact that they grew up with nothing and have no idea how to wisely use their fortune. The spend their money on depressiable assets like cars, boats, clothes, etc..That is what Mitch is refering to by the lottery comparison. Paris Hilton, who absolutley would not have anything she has today without her inheritance, at least has a father/grandfather who is self made and understands how to turn your money into more money.

[YellowJacket]

Originally Posted by redback

You cant be fucking serious, yeah paris was a model and has a label and whatever else she does, but there is no way she has done this on her own, she has no idea how to manage money, have you seen the "simple life". you have only got to watch 5mins of that show to see the silly twat has absoloutley no work ethic or sense of urgency in anything she does

In all fairness, that show is 100% scripted.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by YellowJacket

In all fairness, that show is 100% scripted.

yep. just like that show with jessica simpson. she may be dumb but she isnt that dumb.

[babyblues]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

point is this. the hardest thing to do is to make the money. you seem to dismiss the work that people like gates and anyone else that is rich. they worked their fucking asses off to get there. that is the hardest part.

paris hilton was an example, never said she was on the list. she makes perfumes, models, etc.. because she has been given those opportunities to do so. if she was born into a household that makes 30k a year you would never see her on a model runway. you would never see her with her own perfume. the only person worth a damn in that family is the grandfather that made the fortunes and built up the company. he did the hardest part. now the family can do what they want and get all the opportunities they want. i will say again, i have 100% respect for the self made's. not the people that are handed it.

OK, I'll try to address every last detail. Yes, making money is hard. That is why everyone doesn't have it equally. The people who are willing to do what it takes to make money are the ones who have it. Even those people who were handed fortunes are eventually going to lose it if they don't appreciate the hard work that it takes to keep it. Even if you get all the opportunities you want, you're not guaranteed success. You have to work hard to take advantage of those opportunities. It doesn't matter if your family makes 30K a year or 3B a year. Opportunities are what you make of them. You seem to dismiss the fact that it takes the same hard work to keep making money year after year even if you are handed an empire. Building the fortune and keeping the fortune take the same hard work, bro.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by babyblues

OK, I'll try to address every last detail. Yes, making money is hard. That is why everyone doesn't have it equally. The people who are willing to do what it takes to make money are the ones who have it. Even those people who were handed fortunes are eventually going to lose it if they don't appreciate the hard work that it takes to keep it. Even if you get all the opportunities you want, you're not guaranteed success. You have to work hard to take advantage of those opportunities. It doesn't matter if your family makes 30K a year or 3B a year. Opportunities are what you make of them. You seem to dismiss the fact that it takes the same hard work to keep making money year after year even if you are handed an empire. Building the fortune and keeping the fortune take the same hard work, bro.

i agree with everything you said bro. i was just making the point that making the money is hard work. we really aren't even in disagreement here.