Some of the cars I'm looking at.

[wnabeabeast]

After many years of car buying and selling I learned one thing...NEVER BUY A NEW CAR. Last few cars I've purchased has couple year certified used cars. You can buy a whole lot more car if you went with one of those here are couple examples.
Details of Used 2004 Mercedes-Benz CLK, Newport Beach, CA - Yahoo! Autos
http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/ove...91423&start=16

[The_Grinder]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

Holy shit I just relized you talkin about the 335 turbo. I blew past the BMW when I seen 135i, the 335 is by far a way better car. I checked them out with a friend that wanted 1 and they are nice inside and out. Now nice for a BMW isnt that nice but im sure its nicer than the others posted. I also remember it being in the 40s like mid 40s?
thoes car with a ECU tune are monsters. It will cost more than 1K for a tune but still insane performance. I would get the BMW if you can afford it.

side note Im still gonna get a mustang to turn into a drag car.

No man I am talking about the 135i. It is a smaller sports coupe version of the 300 series. It hasn't been released in America. (Due to be released in March) It uses the same inline 6 as the 300 series and it has a twin turbo. Bringing a car that is lighter than the 300 series to 300 hp and 300 ft/lbs torque. Stock for stock this thing will run right with and maybe faster than the 335i. You are right the 335 is in the mid 40's but this new 135i is in the mid 30's. (And the tune for this one is around $1K)

As far as the STI and EVO being kings of the price range. As far as straight up performance I agree ONLY because the BMW will run about $3K more. But stock for stock the 135i will run with both of em. But that $3K means something so that's why I am in the dilemna. The STI isnt even an option for me because it is butt ugly and I am not driving a hatchback.


First Drive: 2008 BMW 135i

[The_Grinder]

Originally Posted by wnabeabeast

After many years of car buying and selling I learned one thing...NEVER BUY A NEW CAR. Last few cars I've purchased has couple year certified used cars. You can buy a whole lot more car if you went with one of those here are couple examples.
Details of Used 2004 Mercedes-Benz CLK, Newport Beach, CA - Yahoo! Autos
http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/ove...91423&start=16

Yeah but some of the rides I am looking at are first year cars. And I think buying the BMW new will pay off because of their bad ass warranty.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by The_Grinder

No man I am talking about the 135i. It is a smaller sports coupe version of the 300 series. It hasn't been released in America. (Due to be released in March) It uses the same inline 6 as the 300 series and it has a twin turbo. Bringing a car that is lighter than the 300 series to 300 hp and 300 ft/lbs torque. Stock for stock this thing will run right with and maybe faster than the 335i. You are right the 335 is in the mid 40's but this new 135i is in the mid 30's. (And the tune for this one is around $1K)

As far as the STI and EVO being kings of the price range. As far as straight up performance I agree ONLY because the BMW will run about $3K more. But stock for stock the 135i will run with both of em. But that $3K means something so that's why I am in the dilemna. The STI isnt even an option for me because it is butt ugly and I am not driving a hatchback.


First Drive: 2008 BMW 135i

OH WOW! lighter and same motor! that car will fly good luck!

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by wnabeabeast

After many years of car buying and selling I learned one thing...NEVER BUY A NEW CAR.

i think you need a few more years in buying and selling. lol.

ALWAYS BUY A NEW CAR.

[THE BOUNCER]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

OH WOW! lighter and same motor! that car will fly good luck!

yea, i really like that 135i.

[The_Grinder]

BMW 135i.....

[wnabeabeast]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i think you need a few more years in buying and selling. lol.

ALWAYS BUY A NEW CAR.

AND THEN WHAT? LOOSE 10-15K as soon as I drive off the lot?

Sorry bro I will never buy a new car again, here an example for you I am looking at a 2004-2005 mercedes benz SL 500 or CL500, both of those cars worth over $100K new(with some options) Well I found plenty of them with very low miles like 25-30K, they are lease returns and owned by some old guy and never been abused, still under warrant plus it also is mercedes benz certified and with an extra year or two warranty on them around $40-45K this means I will save almost 60K so tell me again why should I buy a new car?

Oh and that CLK55 I posted for example is around $75K new and now it's only $39K with only 35K miles on it. I guess you don't wanna save $40K huh?
it must be nice to be rich!

[The_Grinder]

If I were to get something used it would be a 03-05 Vette Z06 or somethin.

[rado]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

ALWAYS BUY A NEW CAR.

Why? I've bought used/new cars...You're better off with a used car that's certified.

[THE BOUNCER]

i just dont like the thought of getting something used. again, you can look at a car as an investment like a house. you are always going to loose money on car.

[sana]

I think u should get a more practical car - sounds like ur just graduating - why saddle yourself with so much debt for something that will only lose value when u can invest some of that money and actually make that money grow instead?

[rado]

Originally Posted by sana

I think u should get a more practical car - sounds like ur just graduating - why saddle yourself with so much debt for something that will only lose value when u can invest some of that money and actually make that money grow instead?

Well said.../\

[THE BOUNCER]

i also want to know whats wrong with your mazda? is it giving you any problems? how many miles?

[The_Grinder]

Originally Posted by THE BOUNCER

i also want to know whats wrong with your mazda? is it giving you any problems? how many miles?

There is nothing "wrong" with the mazda. But for anyone who has had a rotary engine, they realize that it is very needy. It always needs attention and constant maintenance. You have to start it up 5 minutes before you go anywhere to let it warm up. The gas mileage is no good. 17 or 18 mpg average plus you have to put in premium gas. Plus the value is dropping on these things quick. I'm afraid that in 2 years it will be an $8K car. It has about 58K miles right now.

Actually the thing that is giving me the most problems currently are the super low profile tires. Anytime you go over any type of pothole, the wheel bends and it costs $200 to get fixed. I dodge 99.9% of potholes but sometimes you dont see em, sometimes there are cars coming the other way. The most recent time I bent the rim was on a road I had been driving on all my life. There was one part of it that had a huge chunk missing. It had never been like that before. Needless to say, on a road I knew so well I wasnt expecting to have to swirve a pothole. I went over it, bam, $200.

Nothing wrong with the Mazda at all and I will miss it. It just wasnt for me. While the cars I am looking at are high performance cars, I feel they are a little more practical than the RX8 was. They will also all have better resale values and all of them get better mileage.

[The_Grinder]

And as far as getting something more practical to save money right after college. I can't argue that it might be the smarter decision. But I have worked hard through school, and high performance cars are one of my passions. (I'm not a master mechanic or anything, but I love driving em.)

As far as the money, I don't think it will be all that big of a deal. The RX8 is completely paid off. I was able to purchase it using my college fund money. (It pays to get a full academic ride through college) So basically I will only have to finance about $18K to get a $35K car. I will be financing through my credit union, and I have a good credit score. I am estimating that I can get some of these cars that I'm looking for with payments in the mid $300 range. I don't think that will be a problem at all living in an apartment.

(You also have to remember that I live in South Carolina. The price of living is much lower down here than it is in some of the bigger cities up north.)

[sana]

Originally Posted by The_Grinder

And as far as getting something more practical to save money right after college. I can't argue that it might be the smarter decision. But I have worked hard through school, and high performance cars are one of my passions. (I'm not a master mechanic or anything, but I love driving em.)

As far as the money, I don't think it will be all that big of a deal. The RX8 is completely paid off. I was able to purchase it using my college fund money. (It pays to get a full academic ride through college) So basically I will only have to finance about $18K to get a $35K car. I will be financing through my credit union, and I have a good credit score. I am estimating that I can get some of these cars that I'm looking for with payments in the mid $300 range. I don't think that will be a problem at all living in an apartment.

(You also have to remember that I live in South Carolina. The price of living is much lower down here than it is in some of the bigger cities up north.)

I'm not trying to preach or anything... Its just that I work with financial planning & the biggest problem I see day in and day out with ppl throughout the income spectrum is that ppl just don't save enough money nowadays. As long as u can save as much as u can even after buying ur new car is a good thing

U'd be amazed at the number of situations that I come across where someone who makes $300+k a year who haven't saved enough to retire and continue the same lifestyle they've grown accustomed to.

My motto lately has been that its never too early to start thinking about retiring

[hitmansb]

Originally Posted by sana

My motto lately has been that its never too early to start thinking about retiring

So true!!! People should be planning as if social security won't even exist by the time they retire, because there's a pretty good chance the system is going to collapse. You have to save enough to live the way you want to live without expecting any government help. I've been contributing to my RRSP (I think that's like a 401k in the US?) since I was 21, in addition to my non-RRSP stock holdings. Sure, sometimes it's tempting to cash in some stocks I've done really well on and upgrade from my Accord to a BMW or a Lexus...but then I ask myself whether I want a flasy car now or if I want to live comfortably and stress-free when I'm old. Having a more practical car now seems easier to deal with than being old and on a tight budget.

[ROCKETW19]

Originally Posted by hitmansb

So true!!! People should be planning as if social security won't even exist by the time they retire, because there's a pretty good chance the system is going to collapse. You have to save enough to live the way you want to live without expecting any government help. I've been contributing to my RRSP (I think that's like a 401k in the US?) since I was 21, in addition to my non-RRSP stock holdings. Sure, sometimes it's tempting to cash in some stocks I've done really well on and upgrade from my Accord to a BMW or a Lexus...but then I ask myself whether I want a flasy car now or if I want to live comfortably and stress-free when I'm old. Having a more practical car now seems easier to deal with than being old and on a tight budget.

what if you never make untill "your old"? I hope you live as long as you want but me I live for today cuzz you never know when something will deture your plans.

[hitmansb]

Originally Posted by ROCKETW19

what if you never make untill "your old"? I hope you live as long as you want but me I live for today cuzz you never know when something will deture your plans.

Gotta play the averages IMO: average male makes it to 80 in Canada, 75 in the US